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Understanding Frontier Artificial Intelligence

49 points · 90 comments · roversx

  1. andy_ppp · · focus · HN ↗
    So predicting the next word given all humanity’s knowledge is surely going to max out at slightly less good (we probably can’t get perfect data) than the best human in any specific field. What test does the AI do to be able to understand it is improving? At some point it becomes impossible to know that the output is actually better right?
    1. tucnak · · focus · HN ↗
      > surely

      Citation needed

      1. andy_ppp · · focus · HN ↗
        Have you seen anything produced by LLMs that is better than the best humans?
        1. fsflover · · focus · HN ↗
          Recent mathematical breakthroughs?
        2. OKRainbowKid · · focus · HN ↗
          How could I objectively judge that?

          To me, it is not at all obvious that the "level" of the training set is an upper limit to the capabilities of an LLM.

          Sure, the LLM hasn't been exposed to material more advanced than the most capable human domain experts have produced. However, it has seen and learned from a vast amount of information that these domain experts are completely unaware of. Why shouldn't the LLM be able to use that information to produce output that's beyond the capability of a domain expert?

        3. petesergeant · · focus · HN ↗
          I hadn't seen anything three years ago produced by an LLM that looked better than the most mediocre humans. The argument here isn't about today's output, it's about the potential of LLMs to outperform humans. And it's far from clear that the architecture is bound this way, or that it only repeats stuff it's already heard.
        4. NitpickLawyer · · focus · HN ↗
          Yup, the e2e proof of FLT (estimated effort of 5 years & 1M$ by the best human in the field) and a counter example for a millennium prize (similarly valued at 1m$.
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