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GrapheneOS has fixed the Android 17 QPR1 kernel performance regression

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  1. williamtell · · focus · HN ↗
    I'll be interested to see if downstreams of AOSP ultimately weaponize updates against Google. For the kernel that's a minefield but Google made plenty of stuff Apache/MIT to keep its options open..
    1. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
      As a custom ROM maintainer in that position, it's unlikely to cause a difference since Google has effectively monopolized their Play Integrity API for attestation. Even Graphene itself runs into this roadblock, and why in the current day it's still a minority user group using it or other ROMs
      1. notpushkin · · focus · HN ↗
        I’ve had some trouble with apps refusing to work because of Play Integrity, but it’s not ubiquitous yet. We can still fight it.
        1. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
          Normie apps simply don't anymore. WhatsApp will refuse to log you in if it feels your device is modified and then fails a verdict. Google Wallet won't let you tap to pay. Most banks in the EU and basically all virtual ID systems require it

          That's a big pain point for the average user

          1. RandomGerm4n · · focus · HN ↗
            Both WhatsApp and banking apps (Santander/Openbank) work perfectly for me. You really shouldn't use Google Wallet because of privacy concerns. But if you absolutely want to, there are other equally questionable alternatives, such as PayPal, that work just fine on GrapheneOS.
            1. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
              And you can't tap to pay with PayPal, at least not in my region. Tap to Pay is the big thing
              1. grapheneos · · focus · HN ↗
                PayPal only supports tap-to-pay in Germany. Curve Pay supports tap-to-pay on GrapheneOS in the UK and the whole European Economic Area. Many European banks have working tap-to-pay too, and the trend of those replacing their independent system with Google Pay has subsided. It's mostly a non-issue in Europe but there aren't similar alternatives for most of the world. Japan does have their own alternative which works on GrapheneOS with Japanese models of Pixels.
                1. Andromxda · · focus · HN ↗
                  Klarna also offers tap to pay in their app, at least in Germany. Not sure whether that's the case in the rest of Europe or elsewhere.
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