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1. williamtell · 1790972435 · focus · HN ↗

   I'll be interested to see if downstreams of AOSP ultimately weaponize updates against Google. For the kernel that's a minefield but Google made plenty of stuff Apache/MIT to keep its options open..

   1. 306bobby · 1790991911 · focus · HN ↗

      As a custom ROM maintainer in that position, it's unlikely to cause a difference since Google has effectively monopolized their Play Integrity API for attestation. Even Graphene itself runs into this roadblock, and why in the current day it's still a minority user group using it or other ROMs

      1. notpushkin · 1790997509 · focus · HN ↗

         I’ve had some trouble with apps refusing to work because of Play Integrity, but it’s not ubiquitous yet. We can still fight it.

         1. 306bobby · 1791017375 · focus · HN ↗

            Normie apps simply don't anymore. WhatsApp will refuse to log you in if it feels your device is modified and then fails a verdict. Google Wallet won't let you tap to pay. Most banks in the EU and basically all virtual ID systems require it

            That's a big pain point for the average user

            1. RandomGerm4n · 1791028608 · focus · HN ↗

               Both WhatsApp and banking apps (Santander/Openbank) work perfectly for me. You really shouldn't use Google Wallet because of privacy concerns. But if you absolutely want to, there are other equally questionable alternatives, such as PayPal, that work just fine on GrapheneOS.

               1. 306bobby · 1791031868 · focus · HN ↗

                  They work fine for me too personally, but not for everyone. Banks are ofc by institution, but with whatsapp there's some flag that can be put on an account which makes them get an "unofficial app" warning and not log in. Which gets cleared by using a stock device or something passing integrity. Definitely a weird situation, but there's plenty of proof out there that they're doing something strange

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