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GrapheneOS has fixed the Android 17 QPR1 kernel performance regression

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  1. williamtell · · focus · HN ↗
    I'll be interested to see if downstreams of AOSP ultimately weaponize updates against Google. For the kernel that's a minefield but Google made plenty of stuff Apache/MIT to keep its options open..
    1. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
      As a custom ROM maintainer in that position, it's unlikely to cause a difference since Google has effectively monopolized their Play Integrity API for attestation. Even Graphene itself runs into this roadblock, and why in the current day it's still a minority user group using it or other ROMs
      1. notpushkin · · focus · HN ↗
        I’ve had some trouble with apps refusing to work because of Play Integrity, but it’s not ubiquitous yet. We can still fight it.
        1. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
          Normie apps simply don't anymore. WhatsApp will refuse to log you in if it feels your device is modified and then fails a verdict. Google Wallet won't let you tap to pay. Most banks in the EU and basically all virtual ID systems require it

          That's a big pain point for the average user

          1. notpushkin · · focus · HN ↗
            Google Wallet is the one I miss the most.

            EU banks are hit and miss, but e.g. LHV and Wise both work fine. (Wise might limit some functions if it detects root, but custom ROMs seem to be okay. It also has most of the functions available in the web version anyway.) N26 is flaky (sometimes it just works for me, sometimes refuses to even log in; no idea what’s wrong). Revolut has lost me as a user.

            Smart-ID (used in Estonia) has been working fine for me, but they seem to limit biometric signup on custom ROMs. But you can sign up using ID card and a USB reader, so it’s only mildly inconvenient.

            Now, of course, YMMV in other countries, but I think my final point still stands: we can fight it.

            1. 306bobby · · focus · HN ↗
              I do hope we can, I continue to work on custom ROMs after all :)

              I just also like to be a realist, and right now things look a bit grim

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