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  1. belval · · focus · HN ↗
    I'll go against the grain and say that I like this, I genuinely don't think this is anything but some internal team being excited about their product and giving you some firmware to connect stuff to their agents. Meta the trillion dollar company will not move at all from this.
    1. zitterbewegung · · focus · HN ↗
      This looks exiting for tinkerers. This feels like the early days of voice assistants again except it’s more AI driven this time.
      1. ORDINAND_PIZZA · · focus · HN ↗
        yes, but:

        why build here? why should we grow our gardens in this factory farm?

        if this muse gadget seems so cool, why not make your own?

        don’t outsource your curiosity to people like this, they do not care about you, your family, or your livelihood. they want to control you; this is their toy that they made for you to become fascinated by

        1. vineyardmike · · focus · HN ↗
          First, the muse gadget is just an API and SDK. It’s a fun toy for silly projects.

          The software world is spoiled in that making something new is just text in a file, we’ve proliferated open source freeware, and with AI we can readily clone entire products in a weekend.

          Sometimes though, people like to use commercial products for various reasons (reliability, cost, network effect, etc). If you like to tinker, this seems like a neat way for some without yak shaving an AI assistant along the way. We don’t need to reinvent every wheel for everything.

          I personally think “embodied” assistants are a really fun idea, and this is just an API and SDK to build on and it’s super accessible to basically everyone in the world. If you were inclined to use Muse already, why not tinker with this. I’m sure the hardware would be easy enough to point to an API running on your own server later if you wanted.

        2. DonHopkins · · focus · HN ↗
          Meta should have called it Abuse Gadgets instead of Muse Gadgets.

          After all, React is a Graphical Abuser Interface Toolkit, so it would be on brand. React is the Virtual DOM, and you're the Actual SUB.

          The firmware is Apache 2.0, so yes, you can point it at your own server. But read the token terms before you plant anything: "not a supported product and not a developer platform... may change, stop working, or be withdrawn at any time, with or without notice," and you "may not enable functionality that Meta has disabled." Max 50 devices, none sold or advertised.

          That's not a platform, it's a petting zoo with a revocable leash. You're not a hacker, you're a sharecropper. Meta's word for it is "gadgets." The honest word is "tenants."

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gadgets.muse.ai&#x2F;sdk-terms" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gadgets.muse.ai&#x2F;sdk-terms

          1. janderson215 · · focus · HN ↗
            I think this is better suited for the vast majority of people would never begin to garden than for farmers.
          2. tentacleuno · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt; After all, React is a Graphical Abuser Interface Toolkit

            This seems unnecessarily primitive and hyperbolic. In what way is React like that, anyway?

        3. zitterbewegung · · focus · HN ↗
          Well like that’s your opinion. You aren’t forced to use the platform just vibe. Code it instead
        4. JKCalhoun · · focus · HN ↗
          &quot;Connect Muse to your home Wi-Fi…&quot;

          I lost interest there. I&#x27;m only interested in off-line AI.

          1. onion2k · · focus · HN ↗
            If you&#x27;d finished reading the whole sentence you&#x27;d see it went on to say &quot;...so it can reach compatible devices you already own, or anything you build with a local HTTP API.&quot;

            It&#x27;s not about using cloud AI. It&#x27;s using wifi to enable the local AI to do more stuff.

            1. malfist · · focus · HN ↗
              And when my smart TV asked to be connected to the internet it too told me all the fun things I&#x27;d get out of it. Of course it didn&#x27;t tell you about all the spying
            2. JKCalhoun · · focus · HN ↗
              &quot;…or anything you build with a local HTTP API.&quot;

              I could add that layer myself. When they provide the WiFi layer… yeah, I&#x27;m disinclined to trust them on that.

      2. paul7986 · · focus · HN ↗
        Indeed and Ai keychain voice assistants can double as a home Ai smart speaker and also conversing with it via earbuds when out and about.

        I was a bit shocked last week to see Zuckerberg announce the Muse Charm keychain as that&#x27;s what I suggested and blogged about in August -- portable Ai speakers are best suited on keychains.

        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ryanspahn.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;openais-rumored-speaker-belongs-on" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ryanspahn.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;openais-rumored-speaker-bel...

    2. vasco · · focus · HN ↗
      It won&#x27;t move because anyone with a brain won&#x27;t use this, but I was also surprised at how many people put Bezos-listening devices in their own home.
      1. phatfish · · focus · HN ↗
        Hey now, setting a timer or playing a podcast without unlocking your phone is important!
    3. [deleted] · · focus · HN ↗

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    4. pj_mukh · · focus · HN ↗
      I want a red light&#x2F;green light for my Office Desk.

      Red meaning &quot;I&#x27;m working on something important. Disturb only if emergency&quot;

      Green being, &quot;I&#x27;m scattershot, come hang&quot;

      This is the perfect platform for stuff like this.

      1. taneq · · focus · HN ↗
        If you mean a physical light, you can buy light switches and coloured bulbs from a hardware store.
      2. trollbridge · · focus · HN ↗
        These are readily available. I visited a place once where they had one of these in every cubicle, and it was synced with whatever your current status on Lync (nowadays called MS Teams) was.

        Note that most of the staff absolutely hated it.

        1. pj_mukh · · focus · HN ↗
          turns out consent, agency and autonomy are important!

          to be clear, I suggested this for me to help me.

          1. trollbridge · · focus · HN ↗
            I&#x27;m just saying you could probably find one of those devices. It sounded great in theory, but actually doing it, well, it&#x27;s just plain awkward to come to someone&#x27;s cubicle and there&#x27;s a yellow light. It&#x27;s not red, but it&#x27;s not green. What do you do next?

            For extra fun times, the owner of the company tended to just ignore everyone else&#x27;s red and yellow lights, and he kept working in an office with a door that he closed.

      3. petesergeant · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt; This is the perfect platform for stuff like this.

        What&#x27;s perfect about this platform for it?

    5. demo4567 · · focus · HN ↗
      typical... will use the will power of open source tinkerers and enthusiasts to build goodwill and then enshittify. this is meta.
    6. jerbearito · · focus · HN ↗
      Fair take, but I&#x27;m not seeing anything that makes me buy that rosy theory over Meta just doing PR to get adoption in the dev community.
    7. stavros · · focus · HN ↗
      I really like this too, as a principle, but I know Meta enough to know that this is just PR to get more traction, and everything will be closed up instantly the moment they&#x27;re satisfied with the market share Muse has, whatever it is. I don&#x27;t even bother to see what they&#x27;ve released, these days.
      1. chis · · focus · HN ↗
        The world is changing. Meta entered the enterprise market for the first time ever, and now this. I&#x27;d guess they&#x27;re feeling pretty open minded about throwing any products out there and seeing what sticks.
    8. larrywright · · focus · HN ↗
      This is being driven by Nat Friedman, one of the cofounders of Gnome. So it’s got some level of open source cred.
    9. dbbk · · focus · HN ↗
      Yes I am keen to have some kind of desktop robot I can talk to, as long as I can use ElevenLabs and ChatGPT
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