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ICC judge on what U.S. sanctions mean for her and global courts

229 points · 173 comments · rbanffy

  1. msdz · · focus · HN ↗
    Regardless of what one personally thinks about the ICC, this isn’t a good look for neither the US nor Europe.

    For the U.S., because sanctioning an “unpleasant”, but in essence harmless individual (geopolitically speaking) is ridiculous. Falling victim to de-banking alone can really ruin one’s life.

    And for the EU, because it once again showcases the dependence on U.S. systems for just about anything tech-related in everyday life and work.

    1. dmitrygr · · focus · HN ↗
      > Regardless of what one personally thinks about the ICC, this isn’t a good look

      Legitimate question. Why should a third party (whom I do not respect)’s opinion of me matter to me? Do you care what my cat thinks about you?

      1. rwmj · · focus · HN ↗
        Depending on where you live, your country may or may not have decided to give legal force to ICC rulings by joining the Rome Statute treaty (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Rome_Statute" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Rome_Statute). If you live in a democracy, this was decided by democratic means, and can be changed the same way. This is not a unique situation, there will be many, many other treaties that your country has decided to sign up to.
        1. dmitrygr · · focus · HN ↗
          Luckily my country is not a party. I don’t want my government (that I elect) outsourcing any decision-making power to a body I do not elect (ICC). As a voter this is a hard NO for me.
          1. rwmj · · focus · HN ↗
            That&#x27;s fine, it&#x27;s democracy in action. I don&#x27;t know why particularly you&#x27;d be worried about ICC rulings since they apply to very grave crimes: genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the &quot;crime of aggression&quot; (using large scale military forces to invade other countries). Hope you&#x27;ve not been doing any of those!
            1. selectodude · · focus · HN ↗
              I would guess he supports those who do.
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