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1. pkulak · 1790956327 · focus · HN ↗

   Guys, you don't have to use it. That's the _entire_ point. Every comment in here is some version of "But it's still a cloud". Sure. But if the entire thing can be replaced with a Tailscale free account, or a Cloudflare tunnel, or a port forward at your router (in descending order of "should you do it"), is it really the same thing? Hence the name change.

   1. wildzzz · 1790958265 · focus · HN ↗

      It's not really a cloud service, maybe some of the add on features are but the major feature is the tunnel. I signed up for the trial and it didn't really give me anything I actually needed. The tunnel makes things simpler but I already had tailscale on another box so what's the point? Plus, I so rarely ever need to access my HA dashboard. I don't really want to pickup my phone to turn a light on. The whole point of HA is automation, not bypassing a vendor's app. Once things are operating how I want, I don't need to fiddle with it so why do I need to pay money to fiddle with it remotely?

      1. karussell · 1790960015 · focus · HN ↗

         I thought the same. However, you are also supporting their open source development and so I didn't cancel my subscription :)

         1. disqard · 1790963887 · focus · HN ↗

            Concur. I've kept my subscription primarily as a way to support the project.
         2. pkulak · 1790967153 · focus · HN ↗

            Same here. I _think_ I use the TTS stuff? Not sure. I just subscribe to support the project.

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