Decision models like Jev don't beat LLM-as-a-judge or traditional classifiers
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Decision models like Jev don't beat LLM-as-a-judge or traditional classifiers
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NeumannGod · · focus · HN ↗
For a quick primer, Jev is able to provide confidence scores on its classification, i.e. it is able to calibrate how well it is able to predict. Being able to predict in a distribution is different from being able to calibrate confidence of the predictions which should happen from the question or domain distribution from which the decisions are predicted - being able to do that is tough and is not same as using LLMs logit probabilities which are predictions in the vocab space. Though both are loosely correlated and might converge as LLMs keep getting better, the former is a much stronger decision-making signal than the latter. Jev not beating LLM-as-a-judge might be due to various other reasons such as world knowledge etc, but Jev as a concept will always provide more reliable decisions / outputs than LLM-as-a-judge giving a scalar score.
jvanderbot · · focus · HN ↗
The benefits of Jev, and the reason I'm excited about them:
* Pre-trained/tuned to provide only structured output
* Small, fast, essentially trivial to locally run - this alone makes them an actual candidate for real-world planning systems
* Their confidence scores are useful, even if those scores are not correct/true probabilities
For me and my work, they look like nearly turn-key, tiny, fast, locally-hostable models that can manage state transitions in a deeply autonomous system.
LLM-as judge requires, well, what we know as a full LLM. A fully trained classifier model requires fully training - something you cannot / won't do for a embedded autonomous planning system (by contradiction - if this worked, we'd have used it everywhere already!). Totally unfair comparison in my mind.
mrkn1 · · focus · HN ↗
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