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The Legend of von Neumann (1973) [pdf]

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  1. srejk · · focus · HN ↗
    When you look at it holistically, von Neumann was more influential in science and mathematics in the 20th century than either Einstein or Planck. He wasn't as obvious a symbol of the scientific revolution, but his contributions to SO MANY THINGS at a fundamental level makes him stand out to me.
    1. tomrod · · focus · HN ↗
      Nash's game theory dissertation was something von Neumann considered obvious and not particularly noteworthy, if I remember my lore right. He was among the first game theorists, focusing more on collaborative games than pure strategic/competitive games.

      Einstein built on the shoulders of Riemann, Gauss, and others when considering the universe might be non-Euclidean!

      All brilliant people, many singular minds of great repute, yet, all improved by the rest.

      1. anthonypasq · · focus · HN ↗
        another famous piece of Von Neumann lore is that he constantly advocated nuking the Soviets.
        1. sillysaurusx · · focus · HN ↗
          I was wondering if someone would mention this.

          It's interesting how much worse off the world would be if the smartest people were in charge of it.

          What ultimately blocked his nuke proposals? (Why didn't anyone listen?) I'm curious about whatever failsafe that was.

          1. estearum · · focus · HN ↗
            1. Big assumption that the world would be worse off in that alternative future, no?

            2. Probably what blocked his proposals is that most people are loath to murder millions of other people (especially if they have ~any other option, including "do nothing")

            1. podocarp · · focus · HN ↗
              How is nuking some other country a better future. How are you going to argue for that I wonder. You're going to cause millions of deaths even without retaliation. How are you going to justify that, simply because "they're not us"?
              1. estearum · · focus · HN ↗
                I didn’t argue for any of those points. I just said the future is hard to predict (and the counterfactual past hard to trust), so a confident assertion that his preferred strategy would’ve been worse or better is pretty silly.
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