I think this was a good read, but as a US citizen with no connection to China, it's hard to say. I imagine what this kind of post would sound like but in the reverse, someone in China commenting on these kinds of social dynamics for US citizens, and I can't help but think it'd be a pretty crude characterization of our reality.
I would have really liked it if the author offered their perspective of the US version of these dynamics in a more one-to-one way. It'd let me "calibrate" their characterizations based on how accurate their version of the US side of this is based on my experience.
Regardless, I do think this attempts to at least apply nuance to this kind of discussion, and, of course, the author made it clear that they're aware of the kinds of faults I'm describing, so at least there's that.
It's someone who isn't culturally Chinese commenting on Chinese culture to a non-Chinese audience with the framing of solving the problem of proselytizing "Rationalism" to Chinese culture.
I take it with the same grain of salt that I would any religious missionary describing another culture, or any of the "angry foreigner in China" Youtube accounts. It may be accurate to some degree, probably more correct than someone with no connection whatsoever to the culture, but is it clearly not impartial.
I'm curious why you think that someone who left China at age 4 "isn't culturally Chinese": a child famously absorbs a great deal of culture from their parents and these particular parents grew up, married and had at least one kid in China.
And then they moved to America, and grew up in America, were educated in America, and spent a lifetime immersed in and influenced by American culture. That makes them culturally American. Theirs is a fundamentally different experience than having been raised in China and immersed in Chinese culture regardless of the influence of their parents.
Apart from being obvious given the facts, the author even admits this. So I'm curious why you believe them to be a liar regarding their own lived experience?
nater5000 · · focus · HN ↗
I would have really liked it if the author offered their perspective of the US version of these dynamics in a more one-to-one way. It'd let me "calibrate" their characterizations based on how accurate their version of the US side of this is based on my experience.
Regardless, I do think this attempts to at least apply nuance to this kind of discussion, and, of course, the author made it clear that they're aware of the kinds of faults I'm describing, so at least there's that.
krapp · · focus · HN ↗
I take it with the same grain of salt that I would any religious missionary describing another culture, or any of the "angry foreigner in China" Youtube accounts. It may be accurate to some degree, probably more correct than someone with no connection whatsoever to the culture, but is it clearly not impartial.
hollerith · · focus · HN ↗
krapp · · focus · HN ↗
Apart from being obvious given the facts, the author even admits this. So I'm curious why you believe them to be a liar regarding their own lived experience?