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On social reality in China

255 points · 261 comments · thicTurtlLverXX

  1. HeavenFox · · focus · HN ↗
    I am Chinese living in America.

    All the authors observations ring true, and they all stem from one simple fact: China was a very poor country just forty years ago, and even today is only a middle income country.

    The uncomfortable truth is a lot of the things westerners take for granted are, in fact, luxuries. Arts and creativity is a luxury. Freedom to pursue passion is a luxury. Compassion is a luxury. Self-esteem is a luxury. If you barely have enough food to feed your family, as a significant number of Chinese people were in the 60s and 70s, you cannot afford any of these.

    China has grown richer at a remarkable rate, but the mentality shift can take generations.

    1. 10000truths · · focus · HN ↗
      > Arts and creativity is a luxury. Freedom to pursue passion is a luxury.

      Sure.

      > Compassion is a luxury. Self-esteem is a luxury.

      No. These are virtues, not luxuries. You don't need a high income to be compassionate or have self-esteem.

      1. watwut · · focus · HN ↗
        Also, poor people produce art and are creative. Art and creativity are oftentimes reault of not being able to afford comfortable middle class boring life, having issues you deal with, needing to distract yourself from hopelessness.

        Even historically, quite a few art or music styles came out of poor or disturbed communities before they got commercialized. It is as if upper middle class HN programmers tended to think that creativity or art is only when you do something expensive or take an expensive art class.

        1. mythrwy · · focus · HN ↗
          The best cuisines in the world don't come from the wealthiest societies. In my opinion.
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