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US tells France and Germany to release diesel stocks or face US export ban

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  1. harrouet · · focus · HN ↗
    History will remember this administration as a traitor to Europe and its values. Right when the US needs allies.
    1. x______________ · · focus · HN ↗
      > History will remember this administration as a traitor to Europe and its values. Right when the US needs allies.

      Time fixes everything. Give it a few generations and the world will be inhibited by new humans who will carry on doing what life demands of them, unfazed by today's events.

      1. x______________ · · focus · HN ↗
        Wait, this is not true? Tell me that Germany is no longer involved in world economics because of the events in the 1940's. Or the Usa in 45, or Mongolia terroritial claims during the Khan era, or any other world event in the past that is no longer relevant.

        Please elaborate.

        1. piva00 · · focus · HN ↗
          It's true on the relationship between states while social effects linger for much longer. For example: there's still plenty of animosity from Polish people towards Germans, not in a violent way but more as a priori background distrust of German actions, any perceived transgression has a much bigger backlash than towards other nations due to history passed down by generations of people telling each other about the horrors their ancestors suffered.

          It's the kind of thing that takes centuries to fizzle out, like between Denmark and Sweden, after 200-300 years the wars waged before that are mere historical artefacts used for jesting. If Denmark had been on the Axis-side willingly and tried to invade Sweden in the 1940s this would be a completely different relationship.

          So yes, people will overcome historical grievances but it might take many generations, for us living right now it might not ever happen before we are dead.

        2. dazilcher · · focus · HN ↗
          Are you arguing with your own post and asking yourself to elaborate?

          Please elaborate.

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