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1. GuestFAUniverse · 1790922334 · focus · HN ↗

   Since when is bullying other countries alright? Those are strategic reserves for real emergencies. To keep the show going _at all_.

   What a fucking narcistic war monger clique.

   1. InsideOutSanta · 1790923676 · focus · HN ↗

      But you don't understand, the midterms are an emergency!

      1. GuestFAUniverse · 1790925794 · focus · HN ↗

         But he, his clan and all sycophants made a ton of money already. What more? Make everyone's life even more miserable? Gold plate even more useless stuff?

         Can they just sodd off to a remote island with a golden palace? /Mars/ would be a good place. "One way ticket" playing as part of the OST. Shoot the whole clique with a lot of gold bars to the red planet.

         1. Escapado · 1790927910 · focus · HN ↗

            > Gold plate even more useless stuff

            Bingo! Dragon fever knows no bounds. I truly think there is no bottom in the pit of depravity.

   2. david38 · 1790923720 · focus · HN ↗

      Since there has never been a time in history when this hasn’t happened
   3. expedition32 · 1790924822 · focus · HN ↗

      This is the real heart of the problem.

      Trump literally CANNOT admit he made a mistake.

      Nixon may have been a corrupt sleaze ball but he knew he had to get out of Vietnam because it was destroying America and so he did.

      1. Ylpertnodi · 1790925222 · focus · HN ↗

         I thought the press lost the war.
      2. Hikikomori · 1790934397 · focus · HN ↗

         Nixon prolonged the war and expanded into Laos and Cambodia. They eventually got out because they were losing.

         1. Paradigma11 · 1790936182 · focus · HN ↗

            They lost because they left, they didn't leave because they lost. There is not that much discrepancy between US and Vietnamese scholars about that.
      3. hunterpayne · 1790995400 · focus · HN ↗

         You should learn about the history of that era. Your narrative didn't in any way happen. For instance, the US signed the Paris accords which ended US involvement in January 1973. The fall of Saigon was in 1975. As for the claim, "it was destroying America"...this has no real basis in fact. It was politically convenient to leave Vietnam (much like Trump in Iraq or Biden in Afghanistan), not something forced by foreign policy or battlefield events. Its a myth perpetuated for ideological reasons. Its a bit like the myth that most young people were hippies in 1969 (they weren't) or that Woodstock was an important cultural event (it was made well known by a documentary after the fact).

         The draft was very unpopular which is the one issue that the drove the support of the New Left. But after Nixon cancelled the draft, their support collapsed quickly. The war itself was never that unpopular and most of the reporting about it at the time wasn't very insightful (either way). That era is so propagandized because some people really need it to be. Otherwise, far left political movements would all be DOA because people would understand they only lead to losing elections.

         And if you need more evidence, look at the results of the 1972 election. It was the 2nd most lopsided election in US history (just behind Reagan in 1984). If the myth were true, that election would have been somewhat close.

         PS That era is by far the most propagandized part of US history. What is told to most people who weren't alive then about it has little to nothing to do with what actually happened. I'm not surprised someone would have your take, but its entirely false.

   4. gadders · 1790928043 · focus · HN ↗

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      1. sdcfgy · 1790928197 · focus · HN ↗

         Isn't that basically the whole point of an economic union?

         So when Trump attacks individual countries like this, there can be a union level response?

         1. gadders · 1790930984 · focus · HN ↗

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            1. soco · 1790931647 · focus · HN ↗

               If the government in power didn't want the EU, why should the EU love them back? Also, that government was in the meantime kicked out by its own population, so your complaint is a bit dated.
            2. TitaRusell · 1790931964 · focus · HN ↗

               Hungary violated EU rules. When you join a club you have to play by the rules.

               For all it's typical nationalistic bluster Hungary is a poor country that needs the EU more than the other way around.

               1. gadders · 1790936142 · focus · HN ↗

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                  1. sdcfgy · 1790938638 · focus · HN ↗

                     It rejected fascism you mean.

                     1. gadders · 1790952264 · focus · HN ↗

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            3. pjc50 · 1790932499 · focus · HN ↗

               Are you just mad about having your CPAC/Mathias Corvinus Collegium funding cut off?
            4. Paradigma11 · 1790936355 · focus · HN ↗

               Well, if the policy is to sell its vote membership rights to international adversaries that is to be expected, no?
            5. sdcfgy · 1790938459 · focus · HN ↗

               Oh you mean the fascists?

               Another advantage of unions like that is to shut down that kind of thing, which is exactly what happened.

               Are you really annoyed about that?

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