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DeepSeek Harness Desktop for macOS and Windows

415 points · 223 comments · Kuyawa

  1. wren6991 · · focus · HN ↗
    The desktop build seems to enable telemetry by default. Regular `dsh web` only has telemetry for explicit user feedback. Hmm :/

    If like me you're mildly bothered by this, add these lines to $DSH_HOME/cordis.patch.yml before first startup ($DSH_HOME is ~/.dsh by default):

        - id: desktop-product-telemetry
          disabled: true
        - id: product-analytics
          disabled: true
        - id: session-log-deepseek
          config:
            enabled: false
    
    On-topic: I like DeepSeek Harness quite a bit, but the problem with "Everything Is A Plugin" is that when this includes core functionality, you still have to maintain downstream patches for those core plugins if you want to tweak existing behaviour. I currently have ~25 downstream commits and 0 new plugins.
    1. jimmydoe · · focus · HN ↗
      not surprising. their approaches are generally leaning on gathering as much user data as possible, e.g. the paid API can't opt out training. I'd always double-check before using any service from them.
      1. declan_roberts · · focus · HN ↗
        That's the compromise: Deepseek gets our data and the CCP gets our data. You get very cheap tokens. BUYER BEWARE!
        1. wren6991 · · focus · HN ↗
          Yeah, I am actually ok with this. I'm selective about what goes into it, and the training goes into better open-weight models. From what I've seen the DSH desktop telemetry is actually telemetry (like VS Code), not uploading all your files.

          Might have been unclear from what I posted originally, but the `session-log-deepseek` is attaching session transcripts to DeepSeek API inference requests, so it's just a full version of what already needs to go in the messages array, with compaction expanded etc.

          If you run `dsh web` against a local model then nothing goes to DeepSeek by default (except the web_search tool uses their API, but there has to be a backend somewhere). I think that's commendable. The regression on the desktop app is disappointing.

        2. miroljub · · focus · HN ↗
          You work for Anthropic?

          Why do you suppose everyone would rather share data with Mosad and CIA than with CCP?

          In China, my data is safe. Safe from you, safe from the CIA, safe from Mosad.

        3. cheonic4040 · · focus · HN ↗
          > That's the compromise: Deepseek gets our data and the CCP gets our data. You get very cheap tokens. BUYER BEWARE!

          Anthropic also shares your personal data with the US government.

          At least DeepSeek provides 95% of the performance for 10% of the cost.

        4. dualvariable · · focus · HN ↗
          CCP really doesn't care about policing what I do or think and doesn't have the reach to enforce anything. I can think of a lot of topics that I'd never ask a US-based chatbot that works with the US government, that I'd be fine with the CCP reading instead.
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