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1. accountrequired · 1790919584 · focus · HN ↗

   The binaries are from china. Your data goes to china. The self-updating plugin system is vulnerable to malicious llm provider. Anyone using this is crazy!

   1. sampullman · 1790920717 · focus · HN ↗

      What if I use it in an isolated environment and only work on open source code with it?
   2. glenpierce · 1790921765 · focus · HN ↗

      Is there a safer alternative? It’s not like I can trust OpenAI since they’ve proven that they’ll steal research from mathematicians. X is run by a sociopath. Anthropic is going to IPO so who can say how long they’ll be trustworthy…

      1. Good4boothee · 1790932153 · focus · HN ↗

         Both Z.AI and xAI have already proven you can't trust them, like at all. I guess other harnesses are in "I don't trust it, but it is convenient" category.

         And Pi is considered the neutral choice: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49926069">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49926069

      2. browningstreet · 1790949011 · focus · HN ↗

         Besides opencode?
   3. jluysvi · 1790922098 · focus · HN ↗

      Ahh! Not China! Real Americans™ let their data go to American™ companies!
   4. qurren · 1790922165 · focus · HN ↗

      &gt; Your data goes to china.

      What are they going to do? They have no jurisdiction over me.

      1. harvey9 · 1790923500 · focus · HN ↗

         No jurisdiction but their operatives have global reach. For most people the more practical risk for any rented ai is IP theft.
      2. wickedsight · 1790925034 · focus · HN ↗

         Exactly. Meanwhile, nearly all my personal data is stored on servers owned by US companies. Feels much more risky.
   5. nextaccountic · 1790922227 · focus · HN ↗

      It&#x27;s open source. Unlike Claude Code
   6. Sha1rholder · 1790922748 · focus · HN ↗

      It&#x27;s open source. Unlike Claude Code your beloved friend which is closed-source and uses steganography along with an astonishing array of telemetry and fingerprinting techniques to conduct intelligence analysis on its users.
   7. bedane · 1790922808 · focus · HN ↗

      better this than three-letter agencies from some nazi warmongering alternative
   8. yjh0502 · 1790924042 · focus · HN ↗

      As a non-American, I see handing my data to an American company as potentially just as risky as handing it to a Chinese company.

      1. bedane · 1790953464 · focus · HN ↗

         probably even riskier considering their track record and current administration
   9. latentsea · 1790924347 · focus · HN ↗

      Well under the current US administration as non-US citizens we kinda feel this sentiment about the US now fwiw.
   10. wg0 · 1790924841 · focus · HN ↗

       The new danger is US administration and the current fascit regime. China has yet not topple a single government abroad, has not bombed a single country and has not tapped the phones of its allies.

       Now don&#x27;t down vote before understanding the definition of a fasict:

       &quot;A fascist is a person who advocates for or adheres to fascism, a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology.&quot;

       China is none of that.

   11. edelhans · 1790932433 · focus · HN ↗

       I strongly prefer China having access to my personal data than the US.

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