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Greg Kroah-Hartman – Security in the LLM Age [video]

337 points · 128 comments · usernomdeguerre

  1. usernomdeguerre · · focus · HN ↗
    Greatly appreciated the candor. I've included a few slides into text that i thought were eye-opening to me:

    From his Kernel Recipes 2026 slide on Mythos

    ```

      Mythos's 79 vulnerabilities:
      24 - no detail at all "something crashed"
      14 - not a bug at all
      3 - totally made up data
      15 - already fixed in latest release
        - 11 by others
        - 4 by anthropic
      20 - fixes were needed
        - 7 "assume a malicious filesystem image"
        - 2 "assume you can inject a malicious network packet into the middle of the stack"
        - 2 "NOMMU"
        - 6 sctp networking issues for untrusted devices
        - 2 ipv6 minor network issues 
        - 1 gpu driver for local malicious user
    
    ```

    GHK called this "10 'real' bugfixes", which to me sounds like there's a wild hype machine around these companies and uncritical parroting of every press release they make that falls apart when you engage the affected real experts.

    1. gregw2 · · focus · HN ↗
      What a great excerpt; thank you! It reminds me of what I find when I look at CVEs handed out by scanners at places I've worked for actual impact to systems I've owned... there are a lot of slop/false positives. (And that's even without "AI".)

      That said, I remember trying to weigh the hype at the time of the announcement reading/skimming the papers Anthropic published, recognizing that bugcount alone wasn't super-relevant but also remember being impressed by an NFS bug and a kernel bug that struck me as relevant at the time. So where did that NFS issue show up in GKH's list you showed so nicely above?

      It turns out, AFAICT, it's not on his list, but the reasons are perhaps interesting to others so I will post here. It turns out there were two NFS issues this past year conflated a bit in my memory:

      * The Linux CVE-2026-31402 NFS heap overflow that could allow unauthenticated memory reads over the network isn't in that list of 79, presumably because it was found by Claude Code, not Mythos months earlier. (I am guessing it's not his "malicious network packet into the middle of the stack" and is a stronger attack being a remote attack.)

      * And the CVE-2026-4747 NFS stack buffer overflow that allowed gaining full unauthenticated remote root access didn't show up in GKH's list of 79 because despite being Mythos-caught, it wasn't Linux, it was FreeBSD.

      I guess this does match my memory now that I think about it, that there weren't any smoking Linux guns caught by Mythos.

      * (I guess there was also a longstanding 27-year old OpenBSD TCP SACK-handling stack integer overflow than enabled remote crashes / Denial of Service found by Mythos.)

      There is definitely Mythos hype, but just because it hit the BSD code base more than the GKH-managed Linux code base doesn't mean it was inappropriate to raise eyebrows from Mythos, in particular since "attacks only get better".

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