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How Singapore's government-run dating service works

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  1. naveen99 · · focus · HN ↗
    If women were (legally allowed and required ) to be paid upfront for delivering and raising children, the market would sort things out. We would probably get some professional mothers who would have 6-12 children.
    1. [deleted] · · focus · HN ↗

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    2. collinmcnulty · · focus · HN ↗
      This honestly sounds dystopian. The foster care system does not point to "people who are in it for the money" as the best people to raise children. The market is not the best solution for everything, and working on structural barriers to family raising for people who would like to raise a family seems like a worthwhile effort. I do not know enough about Singapore to say if this dating app will help, but I like seeing efforts like this; hopefully in addition to daycare, education investment, and family leave policies.
      1. naveen99 · · focus · HN ↗
        Foster care is for other people’s children. I think having her genes in the children would make a professional mother a little more attentive to her children. Also better quality parenting would allow her to charge more…

        The current situation artificially limits supply of mothers because it requires relative exclusivity of the father. It’s like nimby people not wanting apartments in their cities to limit supply. Except imagine if nimby’s were able to ban apartments all over the world. That’s the situation with motherhood. It’s single family zoning world wide…

        Of course it sounds dystopian and is not about to happen anytime soon. Because cartel’s don’t give up policies that limit supply so easily…

    3. graemep · · focus · HN ↗
      Paid by whom?

      Who pays men for their role in raising children? Some men are primary parents, and increasingly so.

      1. naveen99 · · focus · HN ↗
        Men would obviously the buyer…. Most would need financing… (baby mortgage) Would probably need a Fannie / Freddie cousin if the market got overheated and a bubble pop happened.

        theoretically some women could pay some quality fathers for coparenting , but it would be rare.

        1. graemep · · focus · HN ↗
          Why would men be buyers? If the women are raising children what do they get out of it? Will be women and children be living with them? If so they would be parenting so need to be paid too.

          It sounds like your idea is that women get paid to have the joys of being a parent, while men pay to get nothing in return.

          If the woman and children do live with the man then essentially you are recreating the idea of a male provider married to a housewife, except more transactional and unequal.

          1. naveen99 · · focus · HN ↗
            Men get a child. Yeah, it’s almost all doable in current legal landscape. Just not so socially accepted. the default parenting contract could be per child…
            1. graemep · · focus · HN ↗
              What do you mean "get a child". Do they get to live with the child? Do they get the child's love? Do they get the child's company? Do they get to play with the child? Do they get the joy raising a child?
              1. naveen99 · · focus · HN ↗
                Same as currently, jointly negotiated
                1. graemep · · focus · HN ↗
                  It sounds like skipping marriage and going straight to being divorced with kids.
                  1. naveen99 · · focus · HN ↗
                    Yes
                    1. graemep · · focus · HN ↗
                      The idea that is going to benefit anyone is bizarre. Have you any idea how difficult dealing with that situation is? Children shuttling between homes or cur off from one parent? Do you know how hard being a single parent is? Agreeing things about the kids? Updating financial agreements for changes in circumstances?
                      1. naveen99 · · focus · HN ↗
                        Raising children is a lot of work. I guess to complete the circle, children would pay the father back with interest or grand children when they grow up.
    4. mock-possum · · focus · HN ↗
      That’s a disgusting idea.
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