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1. 1vuio0pswjnm7 · 1790974106 · focus · HN ↗

   "As we've said time and time again: the internet will always route around censorship."

   It won't route around self-censorship that arises out of surveillance

   Nor will it take a stand against SNI which is a dead simple means of implementing censorship that's in widespread use every day for years

   1. 1vuio0pswjnm7 · 1791063606 · focus · HN ↗

      HN comments with statements like like "Cloudflare supports ECH" are not interesting if one cannot actually use ECH with Cloudflare websites because it isn't enabled

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rfc-editor.org&#x2F;rfc&#x2F;rfc9848.txt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rfc-editor.org&#x2F;rfc&#x2F;rfc9848.txt

         dohclient -s 1.1.1.1 www.cloudflare.com https in
      

      The only HTTPS websites that have enabled ECH are generally sites for testing ECH

         dohclient -s 1.1.1.1 defo.ie https in

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