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Court agrees with EFF: Utah's VPN law demands a technical impossibility

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  1. SoftTalker · · focus · HN ↗
    > platforms are left with an impossible choice: completely block all VPN traffic nationwide or withdraw access from Utah entirely

    Is it even possible to reliably know that a connection is from a VPN? Anyone can proxy through a random hosting provider.

    1. happyPersonR · · focus · HN ↗
      Requires the vpn provider to snitch and possible tag the ip frames or http frames lol

      Folks would just host their own vpns various places and this would be pointless ….

      1. unglaublich · · focus · HN ↗
        It's all just an effort to control the 90%.
        1. pkilgore · · focus · HN ↗
          It lawfare against porn. They don't want these companies to exist. They want it to be impossible to comply with the law to shut them down.
          1. bigbuppo · · focus · HN ↗
            It's lawfare against Constitutionally-protected speech. The "for the children" bit is just an appeal to emotion.

            /Same as it ever was

            1. 0xR1CK · · focus · HN ↗
              Exactly. If they cared about the children, they'd be going after the Ep.-Class (no arrests yet), or a good 2/3rds regime in play right now.
              1. ekianjo · · focus · HN ↗
                EP class are the lawmakers so good luck with that...
                1. sgc · · focus · HN ↗
                  Your comment is a bit inaccurate.

                  1. There are laws already. It is an enforcement problem.

                  2. The Epstein-type crimes appear to be more prevalent in other branches of government and other parts of society than specifically in the legislative.

                  3. Enforcement problem is specifically in the executive, of which enforcement is a part.

                  1. Braxton1980 · · focus · HN ↗
                    >The Epstein-type crimes appear to be more prevalent in other branches of government and other parts of society than specifically in the legislative.

                    Based on what?

                  2. Alive-in-2025 · · focus · HN ↗
                    Saying its an enforcement problem is itself inadequate, because there seem to be nothing really happening and there are endless numbers of powerful and wealthy people who are "in the Epstein files" that gets out in the media, yet somehow none or almost none of them are being prosecuted now or in the past. Some of the now adult victims have made public acknowledgement, congress passed a law saying the details must be disclosed, and the trump admin refuses to do that. Congress is captured by republicans and repubs in congress are captured by trump. So nothing happens.

                    At the highest level the release of the files is blocked (i.e. congress and the president are the highest level).

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