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Court agrees with EFF: Utah's VPN law demands a technical impossibility

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  1. irenaeus · · focus · HN ↗
    Not sure what the impossibility is. VPN's have a set of exit relays. If traffic is coming from one of those exit relays, it's coming from a VPN, so adult websites can be required to block traffic from those exit relays. What am I missing?
    1. gambiting · · focus · HN ↗
      It's impossible to have a full and complete list of VPN exit nodes, for the simple reason that no company publishes the full list, and also technically if you set up an OpenVPN server on digital ocean and connect to that you're also using a VPN but no one would know your address is hosting a VPN server.
      1. irenaeus · · focus · HN ↗
        So it would be possible if the state demanded that VPN companies provide adult sites with continuously updated lists of their exit nodes.

        It also seems to me like Utah could just demand that adult sites only accept traffic from residential ips.

        1. moate · · focus · HN ↗
          Utah could demand the moon, it doesn't mean that the federal government would agree they have a right to that demand.

          Utah can't tell businesses that service the country (or the world) how to do anything in this regard. You can't demand a list of the VPN exit nodes, because no VPN would ever give you that, and if they're outside of your jurisdiction, how could you possibly enforce it (assuming you got the Feds to agree with your law regulating interstate/international commerce now). You can't tell websites to only accept residential traffic, for the same reasons.

          The internet sorta fucks states rights (in a good way).

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