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1. SoftTalker · 1790960547 · focus · HN ↗

   > platforms are left with an impossible choice: completely block all VPN traffic nationwide or withdraw access from Utah entirely

   Is it even possible to reliably know that a connection is from a VPN? Anyone can proxy through a random hosting provider.

   1. ranger_danger · 1790961233 · focus · HN ↗

      Not when the definition of VPN is subjective. I could proxy/VPN through a friend's house and nobody would ever know it wasn't them.

      1. irenaeus · 1790963295 · focus · HN ↗

         This requires a lot of extra work though, and extra work is downward pressure on the behavior (underage people looking at pornography) that the state of Utah is trying to exert downward pressure on.

         The inability to immediately and perfectly eliminate a behavior is not a good enough reason to be against any attempt to eliminate that behavior.

         1. Rohansi · 1790964181 · focus · HN ↗

            > The inability to immediately and perfectly eliminate a behavior is not a good enough reason to be against any attempt to eliminate that behavior.

            So if you are legally required to block all VPN users and then fail to actually block all VPN users what is stopping you from being punished for not complying with the law?

            1. mahboi · 1790966966 · focus · HN ↗

               Yeah, that's the problem. But if they changed the law to not require all users to be blocked, it'd still have the outcome they want.
            2. fc417fc802 · 1790974982 · focus · HN ↗

               Common sense on the part of the judge presumably. Best effort and common practice will enter into it. Lots of regulation is like that.
            3. someonebaggy · 1791028207 · focus · HN ↗

               Nothing. Making laws that are impossible to comply with, then selectively enforcing them, is a favourite tactic of fascism because it allows you to imprison anyone you want, arbitrarily.

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