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1. usernomdeguerre · 1790961094 · focus · HN ↗

   >As we’ve said time and time again: the internet will always route around censorship.

   Is this still true, or has it become a truism? It seems nations like Iran and China (and events like Kashmir come to mind) have progressed the state-of-the-art and playbook to where we can't actually say it definitively will route around it.

   Now seeing that the US and EU are flirting with these similar restrictions it's making me wonder how we'll be able to keep hold of these principles.

   Maybe my concern with that adage is ultimately its passive voice, since it takes 'active' action by people to give us those options, and will probably take more actions by more people to keep it alive now.

   1. nemomarx · 1790961692 · focus · HN ↗

      Is China that successful at it lately? I see a lot of posters and info from China getting around the great firewall, and my understanding was that they don't really care if 1% of users do that so long as it mostly holds and only the technical minded or really fixated will see it.

      So there is a route around censorship, but maybe the public doesn't really care about it.

      1. jason1cho · 1790962907 · focus · HN ↗

         I'm not sure whether it's 1% or 0.1% or only Xi Jinpin can access YouTube. China can adjust the surveillance level dynamically. It's a matter of cost and effect.

         1. hnav · 1790966363 · focus · HN ↗

            That's the way it was explained to me. Letting the fringe do what they're going to do anyway while inoculating the majority to outside influence is the goal and the difficulty setting is dynamic.

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