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1. mahboi · 1790889739 · focus · HN ↗

     if an owner decides they are uncomfortable with the data sharing described within them, they are faced with (arguably) unfair choices:
     - 01 accept the agreements regardless of their concerns
     - 02 stop using their car's connected-vehicle features - which includes remote start, the app, and other very useful features
     - 03 stop using the vehicle entirely
   

   Easy, I take #2. Is that it? This whole time I thought the article was talking about telemetry the car sends regardless.

   1. technothrasher · 1790889964 · focus · HN ↗

      I have essentially gone with option 2 in my Audi A3. Every time I turn the car on, it puts up a dialog that warns me that I've made the terrible, terrible decision to not allow remote data and forces me to say, "no, do not turn it on for me now," before I can do anything else on the screen. Every, single, time.

      1. mahboi · 1790891196 · focus · HN ↗

         Disappointing but not surprising. Those touchscreen interfaces are usually full of nags. I liked the Versa I rented recently cause its "low-end" radio system was the only thing that let me listen to the damn radio without jumping through hoops. Toyota's is an L even though their cars are better otherwise.

         1. dublin · 1790896229 · focus · HN ↗

            I long for a future in which we can do what we did 20 years ago, when we just had double-DIN radio sockets in the dash so we could just choose, buy, and upgrade the car's stereo and touchscreen/phone interface at will.

            1. mahboi · 1790896943 · focus · HN ↗

               Is that not a thing anymore? I'm out of the loop. My 2010 Vic has a 1.5-DIN socket and I did replace the radio, it's super nice.

               1. yearolinuxdsktp · 1790904504 · focus · HN ↗

                  Not really, not even “you need a dash kit” situation, because HVAC controls and other essentials are now integrated with the radio.

                  1. mahboi · 1790911741 · focus · HN ↗

                     Makes sense. Even cars that don't have those nasty touchscreen HVAC controls will have other car settings in the onscreen system.

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