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SvelteKit 3

408 points · 179 comments · sampsn

  1. nathias · · focus · HN ↗
    I love svelte, but I think in the world of agents programmer ergonomics is no longer relevant.
    1. JodieBenitez · · focus · HN ↗
      Are frontend frameworks even relevant ? Granted, I'm no frontend engineer, but I have toy projects where I only have "vanilla" JS written and read by agents. Works a breeze, no dependency hell. It won't work everywhere but I'm pretty sure a fraction of existing apps don't need frameworks anymore.
      1. marmarama · · focus · HN ↗
        If it's just a toy, sure. But even frontier models reach a tipping point of complexity fairly early where they start introducing bugs quicker than they fix them.

        A (good) framework abstracts away the complexity so you hit that tipping point much later in terms of codebase size, and reduces your token spend to boot.

        1. JodieBenitez · · focus · HN ↗
          I get that, seeing what a model can do with a Django codebase. Out of the major frontend frameworks, Svelte(kit) is actually the only one I would consider now as it seems to produce smaller packages.
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