Every few weeks Pi hits #1 here and I quietly grumble "mine does that too, but with lovely graphics.", so I'm saying it out loud: <a href="https://github.com/juggler-ai/juggler" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/juggler-ai/juggler
Like Pi, it's plugins all the way down, provider-agnostic, minimal system prompts, threaded sub-agents, code-mode, multi-client remote sessions, worktrees, a context window you can actually see and edit, etc etc
Where Pi is way ahead is the plugin ecosystem, and that takes people, which is hard to get amid the current deluge of agent action. So if there's any spare oxygen trailing off this thread, I'd love any Pi-heads who fancy a bit of GUI action to come and kick the tyres..
This project looks great, well done, BUT it seems very odd to be "grumbling" about Pi when you're explicitly targeting a separate audience (GUI users).
There are other GUI tools like Juggler that are quite popular, like cmux, that it seems better placed as an alternative to.
Thanks! My grumbling is really just that the sheer amount of noise and churn in this area at the moment is making it hard to get any attention, despite there being so many millions of potential users out there. Unlike many of the others, I'm just one bloke, not a VC-funded outfit with a marketing budget!
Why do you want attention? Are you trying to sell this? Make money? Just want personal fame?
The reason there is so much noise in is area is because these tools are a dime a dozen and trivial to create with AI. I don’t think it realistic anymore to expect a rush of users and make money off of these. The supply is going to far outstrip the demand.
Last Saturday I asked Claude to create a Claude Code clone for me with a few customizations that I personally prefer. It did so in less than an hour, and works just as well as Claude Code. I’m not looking for attention on it - I’m happy I made it, and just myself as a user is gratification enough. I think this is the future of software development, and I think having expectations of attention from others just because you made another tool is setting yourself up for disappointment.
I'm not a noob in the software biz, I've been doing this kind of thing for over 30 years, and I understand expectations!
Like many things I've made, this started as a scratch-an-itch project, but now feels like it's unique and useful to enough people that it's worth a shot at turning it into a business. Exactly how to monetise it, not sure, but regardless of that step, step 1 is definitely just getting it out there!
There's a lot of "What's the point in making an app, one day we'll just ask claude for the tools we want and it'll write them in a weekend" but I think:
a) For things like this you're going to get a better result by taking an app that's roughly the right shape, but customisable, and asking claude to customise it
b) If we do end up in a world where nobody sells software apart from openAI and Anthropic, then that's a bad, bad place to be
for whatever it's worth, thanks for your work on Juggler! i really like the concept (especially the miller columns are really nice), and a small detail but i appreciate the musician's touches you put in the notification chime (randomized according to selected scale)!
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Like Pi, it's plugins all the way down, provider-agnostic, minimal system prompts, threaded sub-agents, code-mode, multi-client remote sessions, worktrees, a context window you can actually see and edit, etc etc
Where Pi is way ahead is the plugin ecosystem, and that takes people, which is hard to get amid the current deluge of agent action. So if there's any spare oxygen trailing off this thread, I'd love any Pi-heads who fancy a bit of GUI action to come and kick the tyres..
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This project looks great, well done, BUT it seems very odd to be "grumbling" about Pi when you're explicitly targeting a separate audience (GUI users).
There are other GUI tools like Juggler that are quite popular, like cmux, that it seems better placed as an alternative to.
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cobolcomesback · · focus · HN ↗
The reason there is so much noise in is area is because these tools are a dime a dozen and trivial to create with AI. I don’t think it realistic anymore to expect a rush of users and make money off of these. The supply is going to far outstrip the demand.
Last Saturday I asked Claude to create a Claude Code clone for me with a few customizations that I personally prefer. It did so in less than an hour, and works just as well as Claude Code. I’m not looking for attention on it - I’m happy I made it, and just myself as a user is gratification enough. I think this is the future of software development, and I think having expectations of attention from others just because you made another tool is setting yourself up for disappointment.
julesrms · · focus · HN ↗
Like many things I've made, this started as a scratch-an-itch project, but now feels like it's unique and useful to enough people that it's worth a shot at turning it into a business. Exactly how to monetise it, not sure, but regardless of that step, step 1 is definitely just getting it out there!
There's a lot of "What's the point in making an app, one day we'll just ask claude for the tools we want and it'll write them in a weekend" but I think: a) For things like this you're going to get a better result by taking an app that's roughly the right shape, but customisable, and asking claude to customise it b) If we do end up in a world where nobody sells software apart from openAI and Anthropic, then that's a bad, bad place to be
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