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Pi Durable

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  1. lukebuehler · · focus · HN ↗
    Very cool to see Pi build a durable agent harness too. I've been building in this space for quite some time myself [0][1] and it is a super interesting place of innovation. Less hype-y that on-your-machine coding agents, but all major players are building products in this space: LangChain Deep Agents, Vercel Eve, OpenAI Agents API, Anthropic Managed Agents, etc.

    The main reasons are:

    1) they are "durable", i.e. easier to make long-running in an unattended way, and easier to implement recovery, monitoring, etc

    2) separating the harness from the compute brings safety and scaling benefits

    3) easier to make multi-player.

    [0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;smartcomputer-ai&#x2F;lightspeed" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;smartcomputer-ai&#x2F;lightspeed

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;smartcomputer-ai&#x2F;agent-os&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;smartcomputer-ai&#x2F;agent-os&#x2F;

    1. anilgulecha · · focus · HN ↗
      Pi is anyway a better option than all the others, because of it&#x27;s focus on agnosticism. Vercel&#x27;s SDK will work slightly better with it&#x27;s AI gateway, OpenAi&#x27;s Agent will work better with codex models, and so on.

      Pi-durable makes pi a good acquisition target for Cloudflare - nothing like durable objects (with containers no less) really exists in other clouds. Wonder what the_mitsuhiko thinks about this.

      1. lukebuehler · · focus · HN ↗
        What is interesting here is the _library_ approach to durable agents. All the other options I listed, including mine, take more of an SDK&#x2F;batteries included approach. So this is very much in line with the Pi philosophy in general.

        So, it&#x27;ll be interesting to see if these durable agent setups need more of a complete product approach, or if people want to compose them as libraries.

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