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1. mrweasel · 1790880244 · focus · HN ↗

   The Turing test is interesting, because I believe that the current LLMs are perfectly capable of parsing the it in many situations. On the other hand we also have people are sound like they aren't real.

   Looking back, was the Turing test flawed perhaps? It failed to take into account that humans can be rather bad at telling actual people from a "parrot". Turing was perhaps a little to optimistic about people.

   1. suopspaces · 1790881152 · focus · HN ↗

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   2. bluefirebrand · 1790882253 · focus · HN ↗

      Of course the Turing test was flawed. We already knew that based on the Chinese Room argument.

      1. pixl97 · 1790900183 · focus · HN ↗

         The way you say that makes me unsure of which side of the Chinese room you're on.

         1. bluefirebrand · 1790900706 · focus · HN ↗

            What makes you say that? I'm really curious. Do I give off AI vibes?

            1. pixl97 · 1790950914 · focus · HN ↗

               I mean the "AI is the Chinese room so doesn't know anything" or the "The system knows what Chinese so the argument is bunk".

               1. bluefirebrand · 1790952638 · focus · HN ↗

                  Oh.

                  I didn't intend to say anything about AI or it's current capabilities in my post, honestly

                  Just that the turing test was always a flawed thought experiment and we've known that for a long time

                  Personally I don't really think any current AI is sentient but I do think it is more capable and sophisticated than any chinese room thought experiment was ever imagined to be.

                  I'm not sure if I care about its nature all that much, honestly. I'm much more interested in the social implications of its existence and how we continue to make humanity relevant in a world where AI and Robotics are doing more and more

                  I'm very afraid that if humanity loses relevance in the current social environment it will be very bad for most of us

         2. ex-aws-dude · 1790901850 · focus · HN ↗

            Hey man I'm just looking up the symbols like they told me

            1. zahlman · 1790936516 · focus · HN ↗

               The joke would have been better IMO if you'd fed the words one at a time to Google Translate to Chinese :)
   3. christina97 · 1790906539 · focus · HN ↗

      That is the entire point of it. When it’s hard to tell what’s the machine and what’s a human, that’s precisely the definition of passing it.

      1. mrweasel · 1790946785 · focus · HN ↗

         Sure, but does that really exhibit intelligent behaviour?

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