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Clef: Open-weight decision models, and new RL fine-tuning platform

637 points · 217 comments · jasondavies

bityard · 1790874486 · focus · HN ↗
Clef is based on Qwen3.8-27B and Clef-flash is based on Qwen3.8-9B (edit: actually Qwen3.5-9B). So, similar in spirit to Kev by my understanding, but based on a newer model.
1. okpatil · 1790881581 · focus · HN ↗
  Atom is 60M Param (around 133x to 400x smaller).
  16ms latency. And locally run.
  <a href="https://at0m.pienomial.com/" rel="nofollow">https://at0m.pienomial.com/
  Why go big when you can go small ?
  1. kamranjon · 1790883967 · focus · HN ↗
    Cause it's not open?
    okpatil · 1790884261 · focus · HN ↗
    Good point.
    To counter, most of the AI is not open. So is none of Microsoft Products. As long as they work, we keep using them.
    verdverm · 1790895659 · focus · HN ↗
    counter point, I've stopped using all closed models and harnesses as a life choice
    Ai is too important and transformational to let Big Ai dominate in a closed ecosystem, thankfully the Chinese have a different mindset and approach
    okpatil · 1790957451 · focus · HN ↗
    That's an absolutely fair way. More power to you !

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