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Canada fast-tracks Pacific oil pipeline to reduce US dependence

83 points · 96 comments · geox

simojo · 1790873133 · focus · HN ↗
So many people come and give doomer statements on the reality of the US and Canada becoming increasingly at odds.
As a US citizen, I just want to add that I hope some day we can reestablish a healthy relationship with our neighbors. These articles are saddening.
1. i80and · 1790873861 · focus · HN ↗
  Disclaimer: I'm American
  I don't see how Canada can trust us again without a major cultural and legal shift in the US. The fact is that any president can, apparently, unilaterally shred international friendships, and 30%-40% of Americans will cheer it on.
  I would love a return to normalcy, but Americans need to make sure, really sure this can't happen again.
  1. bawolff · 1790874110 · focus · HN ↗
    The real problem is not just that, but that america chose to re-elect him. One time can be dismissed as a fluke or temporary situation. The reelection showed that this will be the status quo moving forward.
    redanddead · 1790874869 · focus · HN ↗
    The real problem is not just that, but that these changes were going to happen regardless, he’s an accelerant
    pstuart · 1790877010 · focus · HN ↗
    > these changes were going to happen regardless
    I'd agree in the context that this wasn't necessarily a case of driven by natural forces of the universe rather than some key events that could have been better addressed to hold them off. And the best way to do that is lots of sunshine and awareness.
    Those key elements being:
    The Powell Memo -- <a href="https://www.inequalitymedia.org/explainers/v/the-powell-memo" rel="nofollow">https://www.inequalitymedia.org/explainers/v/the-powell-memo
    Reagan's embracement of evangelicals (ignoring Barry Goldwater's warning)
    Rush Limbaugh's unfettered demonization industrial complex
    Bill Clinton's sellout of labor to the corporate class -- <a href="https://www.theglobalist.com/bill-clinton-hillary-pivoted-america-politics/" rel="nofollow">https://www.theglobalist.com/bill-clinton-hillary-pivoted-am...
    IMHO politics is two distinct things: control of law and the circus of those who vie to take that power. Everybody focuses on the circus because that's where the media points to and is the most engaging.
    But it's the former that actually matters, and it's boring, slow, and opaque, but literally a matter of life and death to every citizen of the union.
    One final thought: the creation of literal Red vs Blue was a masterclass in division and distraction. It's crazy-making to watch it play out from the sidelines.
    fragmede · 1790894732 · focus · HN ↗
    How is anybody on the sidelines with this? Every single person in the world is affected by it in some way, thanks to globalization. An Iran war wasn't inevitable. (Other than the uncontacted tribes, which are still affected by the effects of global warming.)

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