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1. simojo · 1790873133 · focus · HN ↗

   So many people come and give doomer statements on the reality of the US and Canada becoming increasingly at odds.

   As a US citizen, I just want to add that I hope some day we can reestablish a healthy relationship with our neighbors. These articles are saddening.

   1. bawolff · 1790873928 · focus · HN ↗

      As a canadian, regardless of how sad it might be, we cannot stake our livlihoods on nostalgia for a past that may never come again.

      1. NoMoreNicksLeft · 1790874500 · focus · HN ↗

         When your population reaches 100 million, as is the plan... how much nostalgia could there even be? 70 million of those people won't remember any previous era, because they just stepped off the plane. For that matter, what sort of livelihood could there be? Are you planning on some resurgence of Canadian manufacturing? Steel maybe? Textiles? Maybe a film industry? Will you all be lawyers?

         1. stackghost · 1790875040 · focus · HN ↗

            >For that matter, what sort of livelihood could there be? Are you planning on some resurgence of Canadian manufacturing? Steel maybe? Textiles? Maybe a film industry? Will you all be lawyers?

            That's right only America is capable of providing a livelihood and productive economy for its citizens. Silly Canada, just become a client state and let America make all those hard decisions for you.

         2. bparsons · 1790875147 · focus · HN ↗

            Whatever it is, it wont be under the thumb of the US. That is all anyone cares about now. Canadians want off the sinking ship.
         3. data-ottawa · 1790875284 · focus · HN ↗

            I’ve read this comment four times over and I have no idea what your point is.

            Canada has a massive amount of untapped potential, and it’s time we tap it.

         4. bawolff · 1790875412 · focus · HN ↗

            Whose plan is it to reach 100 million? By what date? This is the first time i've heard of any plan to double our population.

            Last year our population only grew by 0.5%. We have a long time before it doubles.

            1. frmrtntn · 1790875829 · focus · HN ↗

               Century Initiative. Been living under a rock? Go check out who Mark Wiseman is, his relationship to Carney.

               1. bawolff · 1790879537 · focus · HN ↗

                  So someone Carney knows believes something, but no indication whether carney agrees? That is weak sauce.

                  More importantly, they are talking over a time frame of 2100. Doubling the population over the course of 75 years is probably fine. The economy can handle it over that time frame.

                  1. NoMoreNicksLeft · 1790892944 · focus · HN ↗

                     It's closer to tripling your population. Which is impossible if your fertility rate's below replacement... well, unless you import enough people that those imported outnumber those already there by 2 to 1.

                     I first learned of it here on HN, someone submitted it last year.

                     >The economy can handle it over that time frame.

                     What economy? Are you planning on finding jobs for tens of millions more people? One might say that you don't have enough jobs to go around as it is.

                     1. rjrjrjrj · 1790894237 · focus · HN ↗

                        Current population is 42 million, so it is closer to doubling than tripling.

                        Population almost exactly tripled in the last 75 years, though.

                        1. NoMoreNicksLeft · 1791009522 · focus · HN ↗

                           It's already underway... about 10 million of those are the population increase, and more recently than most would guess.
            2. bluefirebrand · 1790881822 · focus · HN ↗

               Sure, last year and the year before it slowed down, after several years of increasing record highs. 2021 - 2024 all had higher rates. We had over 2% for consecutive years.

               More than 20% of Canada's current population was born outside of Canada. That's a substantial block of people!

               I'm not against immigration by any means, but still. Immigrant Canadians are strongly likely to outnumber born Canadians in my lifetime

               I asked some of my Indigenous friends here how that worked out for them and they said not great

         5. bryanlarsen · 1790876910 · focus · HN ↗

            There are proposals out there to increase the American population to 1 billion people. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.
         6. yottamus · 1790886959 · focus · HN ↗

            Over the next 50 years, Canada is set to benefit immensely from climate change. Trade routes will open up, huge amounts of land will become arable, and resource extraction will become easier.
      2. frmrtntn · 1790875587 · focus · HN ↗

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         1. sodacanner · 1790876085 · focus · HN ↗

            Why is every anti-Carney post on here from an account created an hour ago with a keyboard-mashed username?

            1. frmrtntn · 1790876342 · focus · HN ↗

               Because I coincidentally lost access to my main account recently (never put in the e-mail field lol) and had to make a new one. This is the same name with the vowels removed - so not just keyboard-mashed username.

               Better to just believe everyone who disagrees with you must be a bot, though.

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