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1. sandworm101 · 1790965439 · focus · HN ↗

   >> balance between live help vs after-visit

   Don't forget pre-visit. Doctor visits go much better if the patient advocate (this thing) has questions in hand. The patient can spend hours talking to the tool and get a summary so they are better prepped for the 5-minute doctor conversation. A tool that summarizes observed symptoms for the doctor might be an idea.

   1. rancar2 · 1790966821 · focus · HN ↗

      Doctors are good with getting a shorthand note they can scan prior to appointment about updates, etc reverent to the appointment that day. My experience is that AI models even with expert curations cannot currently do well by itself and would waste a doctor’s time and could be misleading too. As such as noted by the parent comment, that note would need to be summary sheet that AI touches would have to list facts and context with patient review that it accurately would represents what the patient would say in their own words.

      Pro tip: check out the NoHarm benchmark and tracking to see how the current models are generally trending on the medical frontier. Make sure to select Clinical not General: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.arise-ai.org&#x2F;mast" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.arise-ai.org&#x2F;mast

      And if you look at some the data carefully as one of the models highlights on their blog, there’s concerning behavior for Fable on this front: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amboss.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;noharm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amboss.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;noharm

      1. pandan_doctor · 1790993659 · focus · HN ↗

         Thanks for the thoughts! I’m one of the co-founders and a practicing physician. One of the big gaps with medical AI benchmarks like NoHARM, MAST is they are all primarily tuned for clinician reasoning and none of them look at the patient context and perspective. It&#x27;s a huge gap right now.

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