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An AI sovereign wealth fund isn't progressive – it's techno-imperialism

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js73js8 · 1790862875 · focus · HN ↗
> A isn't X – it's Y
1. rtkwe · 1790863004 · focus · HN ↗
  It's common in AI writing because it's common in human writing. Juxtaposition is a useful rhetorical flourish.
  1. axus · 1790863331 · focus · HN ↗
    Fashions change; ideas that look AI-generated are out of fashion right now.
    I've never really cared about fashion.
    pixl97 · 1790867078 · focus · HN ↗
    For HN users yea, for everyone else, more information required.
    margalabargala · 1790867754 · focus · HN ↗
    If something becomes a strong negative symbol, it's intelligent to recognize that because failing to do so can harm your goal, e.g. communication.
    As an extreme example of this, no one calls it a "Charlie Chaplain moustache" and if you wear one people will avoid you, no matter how much you insist it's just because you like Charlie.
  2. add-sub-mul-div · 1790863427 · focus · HN ↗
    If it was used as sparingly, appropriately, and skillfully in AI writing as in human writing then AI writing wouldn't stand out as so mediocre and cringe.
    rtkwe · 1790864749 · focus · HN ↗
    AI definitely over uses it but it's important to not just see one indicator and assume.
    add-sub-mul-div · 1790865863 · focus · HN ↗
    That's true. Distrust of human writing is one of the unavoidable downsides of LLMs that we were warned about.
    rtkwe · 1790870230 · focus · HN ↗
    You can see it too a lot in "debunking" of videos and images. 4 years ago anything unbelievable was CGI now it's all just getting called AI instead.
  3. the_sleaze_ · 1790867897 · focus · HN ↗
    Only sort of true.
    Consider the OpenAI case of "goblins". The models overfit to a specific type of output. Goblins was a specific case of this type and needed to be corrected.
    <a href="https://openai.com/index/where-the-goblins-came-from/" rel="nofollow">https://openai.com/index/where-the-goblins-came-from/
    > We unknowingly gave particularly high rewards for metaphors with creatures. From there, the goblins spread.
    quxbar · 1790868807 · focus · HN ↗
    The joke's on us, today's highly rewarding LLM language tics are tomorrow's vernacular (ALLMVE?)
    rtkwe · 1790870480 · focus · HN ↗
    I'm not saying all of LLMs writing quirks are naturally derived just this one. It's a bit like it's overuse of em-dashes, they're not common in general writing which is why it stood out, but they do show up a fair bit in other types like scientific writing. My wife, who's a chemistry PhD, has bemoaned the association to me that she liked using them in her writing for papers and now it looks like she's using an LLM.

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