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FTC is investigating OpenAI, Anthropic and other AI companies over product risks

210 points · 160 comments · dgellow

  1. chrsw · · focus · HN ↗
    Imagine if a car company like Ford or Toyota came out and said their new cars are kind of out of control and they needed special indemnities and protection from liabilities if they want to keep selling cars.
    1. TheCoelacanth · · focus · HN ↗
      They pretty much did. Cars get an insane amount of special legal treatment. It's basically legal to kill people with a car as long as you aren't drunk or grossly negligent.

      I will be shocked if I live to see a year where AI kills more people than cars do legally.

      1. lelanthran · · focus · HN ↗
        > It's basically legal to kill people with a car as long as you aren't drunk or grossly negligent.

        It's the same even without cars; if you kill someone by accidentally bumping into someone, or running them down with a bicycle, you aren't going to get charged with murder as long as you aren't grossly negligent.

        Why do you want an exemption for cars?

        1. TheCoelacanth · · focus · HN ↗
          Name one other multi-ton object that you can move through public spaces at high velocities without the law considering it inherently grossly negligent.
          1. lelanthran · · focus · HN ↗
            Sigh.

            > Name one other multi-ton object that you can move through public spaces at high velocities without the law considering it inherently grossly negligent.

            That is not the point I replied to.

            This is a different point, namely, "Using a car on public roads is, by itself, grossly negligent".

            1. TheCoelacanth · · focus · HN ↗
              Using a car on public roads at the speeds they typically go now would be (and was) considered grossly negligent without special laws allowing it.
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