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1. jfasi · 1790860571 · focus · HN ↗

   My prediction: nothing will come of this, and these investigations will either be concluded favorably or dropped no less than six months after the midterms.

   There's only one voice that matters in this administration, and he has already made it quite clear that he both does not consider AI to be an issue, and he is more than happy to trample over his agencies to enforce his opinion.

   1. thelastgallon · 1790876025 · focus · HN ↗

      You're right. Nothing will come out of this. It is very important for these companies that they are sued now by the super-friendly administration and be gently punished (Punishment: Don't do it again, Ok? Defendents: We promise we won't do it again) or settled for a measly sum of a few million (no admission of guilt).

      Then you can be never tried again for the same crimes. There is some law against being tried for the same crimes multiple times.

      1. unrented7977 · 1790877376 · focus · HN ↗

         That's not how that works. If you kill someone and are tried for it, guilty or not, that does not give you license to go kill more people. You can be tried for the same crime if you do the crime again.

         You cannot be tried multiple times for the same instance of a crime.

         Since OAI et al don't appear interested in stopping crime, they can (and likely will) be tried again the next time they do it.

         1. dasil003 · 1790878588 · focus · HN ↗

            Technically from a legal perspective sure, but there is also the common cultural understanding of these things, and an overton window of how we talk about them. The whole doomer narrative, and pseudo-anthromorphization (xenomorphization?) where we ascribe agency and volition to the algorithm, plays right to the interests of the AI leaders by simultaneously making their products so incredibly powerful and civilization altering that of course the valuations are justified, while also providing a convenient narrative that if anything goes wrong the AI did it and there was no way for them to control this new life form. Privatize the benefit, socialize the risk; this is not a new playbook.

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