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FTC is investigating OpenAI, Anthropic and other AI companies over product risks

210 points · 160 comments · dgellow

amelius · 1790860691 · focus · HN ↗
They should be investigating them because of massively selling below cost price.
How is this a fair, level, playing field, U.S.? Making a large pile of money to put millions of people out of a job, it warrants some investigations!
1. gtCameron · 1790860810 · focus · HN ↗
  Do you have any evidence of this assertion? What is 'cost price' and what is being sold below that?
  1. hedora · 1790861450 · focus · HN ↗
    Claude says my token spend is $15k per week. I’m being charged $50.
    They can only do that because of circular finance deals and other fraud. Those deals are also the reason a machine that’d run ~ Claude Opus 4.6 locally costs $5000 instead of the original $1400 MSRP.
    user43928 · 1790866537 · focus · HN ↗
    For $15k you can rent like 14x B200 on-demand at retail prices and run them continuously for a week.
    According to this analysis, at 70 tokens per second for Kimi K3, you could expect to run >800 parallel streams on that setup:
    <a href="https://inferencex.semianalysis.com/run/kimi-k3-on-b200" rel="nofollow">https://inferencex.semianalysis.com/run/kimi-k3-on-b200

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