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StreetComplete on iOS is now in public beta

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  1. conartist6 · · focus · HN ↗
    Can you use OpenStreetMap like Google Maps?

    I tried to use it to list restaurants but the UI reacted like nobody had ever tried that before

    1. unfocso · · focus · HN ↗
      Partly, with Organic Maps or CoMaps.

      However, in my opinion TomTom (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.tomtom.speedcams.android.map">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.tomtom.spe... or <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;tomtom-maps-traffic&#x2F;id1438106561">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;tomtom-maps-traffic&#x2F;id14381065...) is still the best way to use OpenStreetMap for navigation since it combines OSM data with their own real time traffic information without dark patterns or asking for an account like Waze or Maps do.

      1. xd1936 · · focus · HN ↗
        Is TomTom&#x27;s basemap entirely OpenStreetMap? Or do they add their own proprietary layer of map data on top?
        1. unfocso · · focus · HN ↗
          It&#x27;s a... mix. I can see all the shapes of the roads and areas i mapped in my area, but they seem not to trust OSM naming so they either have no name or the name TomTom gave to the equivalent street.

          I can see most POIs i added with the exact name i gave to them, but the reviews and opening hours are pulled from Tripadvisor.

          It&#x27;s explicitly advertised for driving, not walking, so it&#x27;s optimized to get you to places. CoMaps and even OSMand are much better for walking around.

          And there&#x27;s a simple reason for the search being so bad in most OSM apps: offline search.

          The focus of all these apps seems to be a self-imposed &quot;the app should never touch a server, ever, because what if the user is on a 100$&#x2F;GB roaming plan in Africa&quot;, but indexing the maps is not easy.

          I run a local Nominatim database (search engine for OSM) for Italy and it&#x27;s ~57gb of data and indexes for one country only, and it barely supports fuzzy search.

      2. drcongo · · focus · HN ↗
        I tried the TomTom app (on iOS) recently but found it incredibly buggy, especially when connected to CarPlay. The speed indicator would often just show 1mph, the dark mode would work about 20% of the time, and searches would show results from other countries ahead of a place 4 miles up the road.
    2. flexagoon · · focus · HN ↗
      OpenStreetMap is a database, not a map application. The map on the official openstreetmap website is more of a demo to show some of the data. There are many different map apps that use OpenStreetMap data though.
    3. westnordost · · focus · HN ↗
      For the web, I personally like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osmapp.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osmapp.org

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cartes.app" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cartes.app I can also recommend.

      Both projects have a similar goal, to offer a more useful UI around using an OSM based map.

      1. mbirth · · focus · HN ↗
        It&#x27;s <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osmapp.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osmapp.org - as in OsmAPP. Not to be confused with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osmaps.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osmaps.org, the Ordnance Survey Maps.
    4. mbirth · · focus · HN ↗
      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cartes.app" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cartes.app is trying to do this. OsmAnd is quite usable as well.

      For navigation there&#x27;s Magic Earth (can route around traffic jams), TomTom, and Scenic. OsmAnd can also do routing.

      1. maelito · · focus · HN ↗
        And we&#x27;re adding new itinerary options soon.

        For cars : avoid highways, tolls. For cycling : follow rivers, less noise, less traffic, etc; for walking : no steps.

    5. tripdout · · focus · HN ↗
      There&#x27;s also OsmAnd for mobile.
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