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To grieve, or not to grieve?

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  1. zaptheimpaler · · focus · HN ↗
    Most of these idealistic pieces about AI seem to come from senior, established or wealthy people who aren't very exposed to the labor market. In that view, the question of AI and its transformation is almost philosophical like this piece.

    It's more a question of survival if you're labor though. It's very transformative tech but it's coming at a time when the scales are heavily tilted in favor of capital over labor, the government is the most corrupt its ever been and AI is going to make that much more extreme. It doesn't matter how amazing the technology is if all the benefits are going to accrue to the same few people who already have everything and destroy everyone else's bargaining power.

    1. roenxi · · focus · HN ↗
      Well sure, but labour isn't going to get much done by pretending that it isn't happening or making moral arguments. I'm put in mind of all the various powers that collapsed in the face of European colonialism - feel, argue and say whatever at some point only the massive power gap matters.

      These AI don't get tired, they are still improving at unbelievable rates that can't really be matched by a human and they're already good enough to do most intellectual tasks to some sort of standard (often quite high). Attempting to assert the primacy of meat-based thinking is not going to get very far at the rate things are going.

      1. zaptheimpaler · · focus · HN ↗
        > Attempting to assert the primacy of meat-based thinking is not going to get very far

        That's the exact opposite of what I'm trying to do. I know they're superior in many ways, that's why I'm worried about labor losing even more power. All I'm saying is the gains from AI have to be distributed society-wide instead of being captured by the same powers that control everything else and this is a political task that we need to participate in urgently.

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