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Suits Are Better Tech Than Modern Clothes

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  1. hutattedonmyarm · · focus · HN ↗
    > Buttons > Zippers

    I disagree. Yes, the failure mode of buttons is better. But the opening/closing process of zipper is much more convenient/faster than for buttons, and I dress and undress a lot more often than I need to replace a button or zipper.

    I own a lot of zip hoodies, some of them > 10 years old, and for none of these the zipper has ever failed. The only zipper that have failed on me are on bags (e.g. messenger bags or similar)

    1. haritha-j · · focus · HN ↗
      I have a pair of jeans where Levi's has inexplicably decided to use buttons instead of a zipper. Why??? It's a struggle every time i go to a urinal.
      1. kijin · · focus · HN ↗
        When Levi's first made jeans, zippers were not invented yet. You must have bought a pair from one of their original product lines.

        Besides, pants with button fly have the distinctive advantage that you will never get your most sensitive skin accidentally pinched between the zippers. :)

        1. haritha-j · · focus · HN ↗
          What can I say, the risk makes me feel alive :p
        2. maleldil · · focus · HN ↗
          Just wear underwear.
      2. ndsipa_pomu · · focus · HN ↗
        Levi's had an advertising campaign in the UK a few decades ago that promoted their "new" button fly, so it's mainly a fashion/marketing thing. Jeans were around before zips were invented, so it's a callback to the original design.

        I remember wearing them and certainly they were really stiff and awkward to use when new.

        1. mrguyorama · · focus · HN ↗
          Button Fly jeans were a popular fashion option when I was in high school in 2012. I thought it was hilarious that parents and companies were pushing on teenagers a product who's primary improvement in functionality was "You can rip them open and take them off faster"

          I always thought that was sort of the opposite of what they wanted!

      3. throw89999293nn · · focus · HN ↗
        I on the other hand much prefer buttons on jeans. Not because of the failure thing (as others have said: That’s not much of an issue anymore) but because of how Zippers make the fabric behave and shape. A button fly conforms much better to my personal waist/crotch anatomy, especially when sitting. Undoing a button fly can be even faster than a zipper because you just have to pull in the right direction from the top once (instead of opening one button and then pulling the zipper). Closing is more involved but I can do it with one hand and without thinking actively about it, so it’s fine for me, personally.
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