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1. verdverm · 1790803627 · focus · HN ↗

   token vendors on the path to unlimited plans like mobile data, you love to see it

   1. georgel · 1790803872 · focus · HN ↗

      And just like those "unlimited" plans, the disclaimer always reads speeds slow down after N GB transferred/mo. If this unlimited tokens world happens, I expect vendors to start throttling or downgrading models.

      Network neutrality meet token neutrality.

      1. skeledrew · 1790804720 · focus · HN ↗

         In this case I wouldn't mind some throttling. After all this is constantly using particular amount of resources to get particular performance, unlike internet/data where it's essentially the same level of resource usage regardless of performance.
      2. verdverm · 1790805910 · focus · HN ↗

         That's essentially what the OpenCode Go plan is half way to, but with clear quotas

         There is a difference in that different models consume different a.ounts of resources (electricity), so times are not as uniform as bytes of data

2. Tiberium · 1790803763 · focus · HN ↗

   I don't see that? It's unlimited in chat on the Pro plans, not in Codex.

   1. skeledrew · 1790804100 · focus · HN ↗

      It's there

      > Maximum Codex tasks

      > ...

      > Unlimited GPT-5.6 and file uploads

      1. godelski · 1790804286 · focus · HN ↗

           > $0/mo
           > Limited access to flagship model GPT-5.6
         

         I don't see the un
      2. [deleted] · 1790804968 · focus · HN ↗

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      3. Tiberium · 1790805052 · focus · HN ↗

         It's not Codex-specific, 5.6 is for chat. Look at another entry, for example:

         "Expanded projects, tasks, and custom GPTs"

         Do you have custom GPTs in Codex?

         This is just the generic ChatGPT plan comparison page, but under the Codex url.

         1. skeledrew · 1790805500 · focus · HN ↗

            It does say "Codex is included in your ChatGPT Free, Go, Plus, Pro, Business, or Enterprise plan." at the top of the page. Just scroll to the Pro (last tier) section for that detail.

            1. Tiberium · 1790805571 · focus · HN ↗

               I'm not sure what we're arguing here about, you can go into Codex and start using 5.6. It'll start draining your weekly limit.

               This thread is silly.

               1. skeledrew · 1790806256 · focus · HN ↗

                  I'm just going by what I see on the linked page. Under the Pro section ($100+) it says unlimited 5.6, and Codex usage is included in all tiers. So I can only conclude that unlimited 5.6 is available in Codex (for $100+/month). If that isn't the case then may want to contact support.
3. tetrisgm · 1790804236 · focus · HN ↗

   This had the asterisk of “reasonable use”, so unlimited is actually practically bounded. That limit is not stated

   1. skeledrew · 1790804781 · focus · HN ↗

      "You'll know if/when you hit it."
4. skeledrew · 1790804454 · focus · HN ↗

   Just a couple days after I commented[0]; it's like they read it and heeded. I must admit I'm feeling quite tempted.

   [0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49883353">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49883353

5. rsyring · 1790804738 · focus · HN ↗

   Notably the business &quot;Pro&quot; plan is missing for $125 &#x2F; month. So isn&#x27;t benefitting from this?

   This pricing stuff is so frustrating. I run a small business so Enterprise doesn&#x27;t fit us. The personal plans are better than the business plans. So we just do reimbursements for the personal plans.

   I would mind paying $125 for SMB plans equivalent to the personal $100 plan, assuming they were as good or better than the personal plan. But I don&#x27;t understand this pricing model that has the individual plans beating the business plans soundly.

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