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Gemini 4 Argon

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  1. tazjin · · focus · HN ↗
    > Argon agents are working on migrating C/C++ codebases to Rust across Google

    Man, I remember back in the days when the cppnext team was refusing to even consider Rust, instead looking at absurd stuff like Carbon and Swift (!), even though half of the engineering staff already knew where this was headed. I hope they got a few good promos out of the delays at least.

    1. timmg · · focus · HN ↗
      I wonder if this means Carbon is DOA.

      I was excited to see what it would be. But I don't think I can argue that it makes as much sense anymore.

      1. qalmakka · · focus · HN ↗
        Carbon was clearly DOA the moment it was announced, IMHO. It looked cool but it served none but Google, and now with LLMs you have a massive incentive not to use a niche or new language due to how better LLMs get the bigger the corpus is

        The only somewhat realistic proposal in this space is Herb Sutter's cpp2, which is arguably a massive improvement and I'm puzzled why nobody in the standard thought to give it a spin, there's just to much cruft they'll never be able to get rid of unless they make an alternate yet backward compatible syntax with C++ that changes the defaults from "random 80s nonsense" to something better

        1. fg137 · · focus · HN ↗
          None of these solutions has a chance. That should be clear from the beginning. The last thing the C++ community will do is to migrate to an incompatible language that only looks/reads like C++ -- that did not happen in the past 30 years and will not happen now.
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