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Gemini 4 Argon

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  1. taylorfinley · · focus · HN ↗
    Ten days ago I had an experience with Gemini 3.8 flash that made me wonder if I was being routed to a different model under test. I was trying to use rocm with llama.cpp on my 128gb Strix Halo but could only get it to run Vulkan. I pasted the error message into agy and it proceeded to attach GDB to my GPU driver, reverse-engineer the kernel queue ioctl interface, and author an LD_PRELOAD C shim to get ROCm llama.cpp working on my Strix Halo. My jaw was hanging open the whole time.

    Edit to add the fix: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;birep&#x2F;6f2c8d490c7a29820997d57bd654c351" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;birep&#x2F;6f2c8d490c7a29820997d57bd654c3...

    1. spankalee · · focus · HN ↗
      3.8 Flash is just quite good, and so is the Antigravity harness.

      I use a mix of Fable 5.1, Opus 5.5, and Gemini 3.8 Flash and Gemini holds it&#x27;s own. Especially in writing, frontend, and sysadmin work. agy for configuring a NixOS system has been truly incredible.

      1. mapontosevenths · · focus · HN ↗
        Even if agy was the best (it&#x27;s not, and is missing basic features) you wouldn&#x27;t rather have a choice?

        I cancelled Ultra because they forced me into their harness like I should adapt to them, rather than the other way around.

        1. drusepth · · focus · HN ↗
          What basic features are missing from agy? I&#x27;ve been using it and cli-cc + web-cc for months (among a few other random harnesses to test here and there) and they all seem roughly comparable to me.

          I actually just cancelled Ultra also because I couldn&#x27;t subscribe to a YouTube Family plan while I had it active (Google... :[) but trying to use Codex as a replacement while I testdrive Astra makes me yearn for agy again.

          1. walthamstow · · focus · HN ↗
            I have used it for little more than 6 hours or so in total but I&#x27;m pretty sure it doesn&#x27;t have compaction?
            1. piyh · · focus · HN ↗
              They only released auto mode in the last 2 weeks. Before that it was bypass permissions or manually approve every single tool call. Antigravity is permanently 6 months behind.

              I have a skill that spins up worktrees and isolated services on unique ports so I can work in parallel. Antigravity queues all my prompts and makes me confirm to submit them anytime a long running process like a hot reloading UI is active.

              The models are fine, the limits are generous, but the dev experience shit tier. Before they were a Codex clone, AntiGravity was an IDE and during the transition to a clone they outright deleted my IDE. It took them a week to roll out a fix.

              For almost a year they didn&#x27;t allow you to see usage limits. Then when they did show them, they update every ~30 minutes and require 4 clicks to navigate to. It&#x27;s a little better now, but it&#x27;s still painfully behind the curve.

              1. throwuxiytayq · · focus · HN ↗
                Holy shit: the software that works is already there, it’s open source, you just have to clone it, the code writes itself, and Google still manages to fuck it up. I swear, these guys are beyond salvation.
                1. p_l · · focus · HN ↗
                  Arguably gemini-cli was done in similar style, but claims on reasons for switching were about speed and efficiency of the internal jetski tool in comparison (antigravity toolkit wraps jetski code)
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