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Gemini 4 Argon

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  1. taylorfinley · · focus · HN ↗
    Ten days ago I had an experience with Gemini 3.8 flash that made me wonder if I was being routed to a different model under test. I was trying to use rocm with llama.cpp on my 128gb Strix Halo but could only get it to run Vulkan. I pasted the error message into agy and it proceeded to attach GDB to my GPU driver, reverse-engineer the kernel queue ioctl interface, and author an LD_PRELOAD C shim to get ROCm llama.cpp working on my Strix Halo. My jaw was hanging open the whole time.

    Edit to add the fix: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;birep&#x2F;6f2c8d490c7a29820997d57bd654c351" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;birep&#x2F;6f2c8d490c7a29820997d57bd654c3...

    1. spankalee · · focus · HN ↗
      3.8 Flash is just quite good, and so is the Antigravity harness.

      I use a mix of Fable 5.1, Opus 5.5, and Gemini 3.8 Flash and Gemini holds it&#x27;s own. Especially in writing, frontend, and sysadmin work. agy for configuring a NixOS system has been truly incredible.

      1. mapontosevenths · · focus · HN ↗
        Even if agy was the best (it&#x27;s not, and is missing basic features) you wouldn&#x27;t rather have a choice?

        I cancelled Ultra because they forced me into their harness like I should adapt to them, rather than the other way around.

        1. drusepth · · focus · HN ↗
          What basic features are missing from agy? I&#x27;ve been using it and cli-cc + web-cc for months (among a few other random harnesses to test here and there) and they all seem roughly comparable to me.

          I actually just cancelled Ultra also because I couldn&#x27;t subscribe to a YouTube Family plan while I had it active (Google... :[) but trying to use Codex as a replacement while I testdrive Astra makes me yearn for agy again.

          1. mapontosevenths · · focus · HN ↗
            Sorry for the delay, I didn&#x27;t want to drop a glib half answer on you. Using agy is like going back in time. It&#x27;s better than Gemini CLI was, but that&#x27;s a really low bar.

            I also had that weird Youtube problem. I had to go without it for several days because signing up for Ultra hijacks your YouTube account for no reason.

            1) Try to integrate agy into a workflow. It can&#x27;t do standard I&#x2F;O like: tail -200 app.log | claude -p &quot;Find the problem&quot;

            2) Hard iteration limits. Preventing runaways is good. Preventing me from looping on purpose is anti-user. See also number 7.

            3) Not open source so I can&#x27;t fix any of these problems.

            4) No skills. In 2026. Yikes.

            5) No persistent memory (see Claudes auto memory)

            6) No sub-agents or orchestration of any type really.

            7) Weird hard coded limits and constant API errors on everything (scaling problems?)

            8) No &#x2F;loop command

            9) &#x2F;btw is weird and ephemeral. No way to merge it back to the conversation.

            10) Unstable in general.

            11) No way to control it via API.

            I could keep going on. I would suggest taking a class on Claude Code or Codex then using it for a few months. Swapping is always painful, but it&#x27;s so worth it. Then if you want try to go back to agy. Don&#x27;t worry, agy won&#x27;t have changed much. It improves at a snails pace.

            1. drusepth · · focus · HN ↗
              I don&#x27;t know when you last tried agy, but if you ever go back to try it again, you&#x27;ll hopefully be happy to know it does indeed support skills, sub-agents with pretty good inter-agent communication, and probably more.
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