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Gemini 4 Argon

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  1. taylorfinley · · focus · HN ↗
    Ten days ago I had an experience with Gemini 3.8 flash that made me wonder if I was being routed to a different model under test. I was trying to use rocm with llama.cpp on my 128gb Strix Halo but could only get it to run Vulkan. I pasted the error message into agy and it proceeded to attach GDB to my GPU driver, reverse-engineer the kernel queue ioctl interface, and author an LD_PRELOAD C shim to get ROCm llama.cpp working on my Strix Halo. My jaw was hanging open the whole time.

    Edit to add the fix: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;birep&#x2F;6f2c8d490c7a29820997d57bd654c351" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;birep&#x2F;6f2c8d490c7a29820997d57bd654c3...

    1. gottorf · · focus · HN ↗
      My experience with Gemini 3.8 Flash has been awful; it gives me the most hallucinations out of the major models. I&#x27;m not using it for coding, but general research on different topics.
      1. mattjoyce · · focus · HN ↗
        Hallucination seems a very dated term.
        1. gottorf · · focus · HN ↗
          Hallucination is accurate for what I&#x27;m seeing -- e.g. it&#x27;s making up information about the 2nd gen Toyota Tundra that has no basis in reality. When challenged, it corrects itself.
          1. alluro2 · · focus · HN ↗
            My colleague wanted to diagnose a specific error code on his car himself, and Gemini told him that it&#x27;s simple to do with an OBD2 dongle - he asked it about the details thoroughly, to confirm, and bought the dongle.

            It didn&#x27;t work. Gemini: &quot;Oh yeah, that obviously cannot work, it&#x27;s not possible to do it through OBD2&quot; (paraphrasing)

            It was quite funny to me, but a bit less so to my colleague.

            1. Gareth321 · · focus · HN ↗
              I&#x27;ve had many similar experiences. It&#x27;s confidently incorrect to a shocking degree. Worse than ChatGPT from two years ago.
          2. mattjoyce · · focus · HN ↗
            Its always been a bad term. If we wanted an accurate term then it&#x27;s &#x27;confabulation&#x27;, but &#x27;muddled&#x27; or just &#x27;wrong&#x27; are also good.
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