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1. babelfish · 1790798806 · focus · HN ↗

   > We’ll continue to gather feedback from early testers as we iterate on guardrails before making Argon available to developers, enterprises, and consumers as soon as possible.

   Gemini not beating the "can't release a model" allegations

   1. bakugo · 1790800100 · focus · HN ↗

      They're just following the current AI marketing playbook. "Our new model is simply too dangerous to release to the public right away" is now standard practice.

      They even gave their model a random nonsensical name suffix simply because OpenAI is now doing it, too. Monkey see, monkey do.

      1. A_D_E_P_T · 1790800992 · focus · HN ↗

         I'm still at a loss as to what argon has to do with anything. Say what you will about Luna-Terra-Sol-Astra, or Haiku-Sonnet-Opus, they make sense. I don't see how Google can make sense of argon; it's in a fairly strange place in the periodic table...

         1. brainwad · 1790801548 · focus · HN ↗

            They are going alphabetically, Android style.

            1. IX-103 · 1790802701 · focus · HN ↗

               Yeah, I heard the next one was Barium...or was it Boron?

               I was going to say I don't know what they'd do for C, since Carbon and Calcium are already things. But knowing Google, they'll probably call it Chromium.

               1. A_D_E_P_T · 1790806573 · focus · HN ↗

                  They could use caesium or cadmium, which are hardly less weird than argon.
         2. fooker · 1790801859 · focus · HN ↗

            Google R Gon lose the AI race
         3. ryandrake · 1790806104 · focus · HN ↗

            All-my-tokens-ar-gon
      2. jstummbillig · 1790801314 · focus · HN ↗

         > now standard practice.

         Opus 5.5 and Sol 6.1, literally state of the art (in their respective class), were just released without any prior announcement. This has pure and simple become a Google thing.

         1. kevinh · 1790802034 · focus · HN ↗

            OpenAI said they dropped Astra 6.1 over safety concerns: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;ai&#x2F;openai-chatgpt-model-release-cancel-safety-5a2f9f42" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;ai&#x2F;openai-chatgpt-model-release-can...

            1. jstummbillig · 1790803251 · focus · HN ↗

               I don&#x27;t read that as the same category: There was no announcement, no benchmarks, no limited release and not even any indication what happens with the model. The model failed internal safety standards. Might be scrapped entirely.

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