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Gemini 4 Argon

1699 points · 1187 comments · bradleyg223

  1. iamronaldo · · focus · HN ↗
    Argon will launch at an introductory price of $2 per million input tokens and $10 per million output tokens, with cached input tokens priced at 95% off input token price. Wow
    1. LucasBrandt · · focus · HN ↗
      5x cheaper than Astra for input and output, 10x cheaper for cached input.
      1. h14h · · focus · HN ↗
        watch it somehow use 20x more tokens tho
        1. tonyhart7 · · focus · HN ↗
          Google model really like reasoning a lot
          1. 3371 · · focus · HN ↗
            More importantly, they can stuck at reasoning loop!
      2. ehsankia · · focus · HN ↗
        It's exact same price as Sol 6.1 announced yesterday.
    2. denysvitali · · focus · HN ↗
      > After the introductory period expires, the price of $4 per 1M input tokens and $20 per 1M output tokens will apply.
      1. kingstnap · · focus · HN ↗
        I have my doubts about them following through with this increase. I mean how many times has an increase on the same model happened.

        There was Deepseek v4, which then later Deepseek v4.1 came out and it went back down again.

        1. jofzar · · focus · HN ↗
          They will follow through with it, it's because they want to get the money of the people who embedded it into their system and lazy to change it.
        2. onlyrealcuzzo · · focus · HN ↗
          It's an accounting trick.

          They get to claim that as revenue, and then the discount as an expense.

          This is how you grow your top line

          1. lumzell · · focus · HN ↗

            [dead]

    3. onlyrealcuzzo · · focus · HN ↗
      That's before they integrate a Jev solution, which should lower agentic workflow costs by ~40% and increase speeds by ~40%, while also increasing quality.

      Everyone will be adding this soon, though I won't be surprised if Google is one of the first - and I'll be shocked if we have to wait more than a month and a half.

      1. asdfman123 · · focus · HN ↗
        Jev can fix it
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