I'm surprised by the negative response towards this professor. The syllabus was extremely clear up front, and students did not respect it and decided to see what they could get away with instead. Yeah there's some weird rules to follow, but the homework seems fairly scoped to smaller problems and it's just one class out of a few dozen.
Because it doesn't matter if he is right or wrong. A bunch of kids failed an important class and he didn't do a damn thing to address it. The teacher has failed. If you were his employer, would you think his methods are effective with the current students? I don't. Kids are lacking so many experiences, its just not reasonable to expect self study on everything. It also isn't required for learning.
I don't get why this is so hard to address. Make the homework a small part of the final grade and use in-person labs to ensure students are learning how to do the homework. Take advantage of llms as a tutor and helper, it is silly not to use the tools we use for so many classes already because we want kids actually doing the work. No one needs to shine light through a prism or swing a pendulum to pass phyiscs, they have labs and still make you do it.
In a lab, you can prevent the use of an llm and control the websites accessed. You can even put a relevant programming book at each station. You can do individual work where people all work alone and don't talk or you can do group work and vary during the semester. Make it a 3hr lab twice a week if that is what it takes. Phones stay in bags or pockets with dnd set.
I also think schools need to provide in-house llms for students to use. Labs, homework, research, etc should all be done using llms hosted by the school. It's crazy if this isn't already happening at every major university.
Why give all that student data to a corporation using it to make your students jobless? If you keep all the search and llm use in-house, you can use the data for education improvements and research open to students.
> A bunch of kids failed an important class and he didn't do a damn thing to address it.
It's unclear to me how you reach that conclusion when the alternative that was suggested to the Dean and Department Head of allowing students to resubmit the assignments would have done just that.
> its just not reasonable to expect self study on everything.
That is not an expectation in the course. There is an army of graduate and undergraduate TAs available to provide assistance and answer questions.
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roosterIllusi0n · · focus · HN ↗
I don't get why this is so hard to address. Make the homework a small part of the final grade and use in-person labs to ensure students are learning how to do the homework. Take advantage of llms as a tutor and helper, it is silly not to use the tools we use for so many classes already because we want kids actually doing the work. No one needs to shine light through a prism or swing a pendulum to pass phyiscs, they have labs and still make you do it.
In a lab, you can prevent the use of an llm and control the websites accessed. You can even put a relevant programming book at each station. You can do individual work where people all work alone and don't talk or you can do group work and vary during the semester. Make it a 3hr lab twice a week if that is what it takes. Phones stay in bags or pockets with dnd set.
I also think schools need to provide in-house llms for students to use. Labs, homework, research, etc should all be done using llms hosted by the school. It's crazy if this isn't already happening at every major university. Why give all that student data to a corporation using it to make your students jobless? If you keep all the search and llm use in-house, you can use the data for education improvements and research open to students.
luke0016 · · focus · HN ↗
It's unclear to me how you reach that conclusion when the alternative that was suggested to the Dean and Department Head of allowing students to resubmit the assignments would have done just that.
> its just not reasonable to expect self study on everything.
That is not an expectation in the course. There is an army of graduate and undergraduate TAs available to provide assistance and answer questions.