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1. WD-42 · 1790794002 · focus · HN ↗

   Writing is thinking in every situation, not just limited to commit messages. This is a fact that I'm concerned people are forgetting, or worse never understood to begin with.

   1. ModernMech · 1790798155 · focus · HN ↗

      Did you think about this comment or are you just repeating something you heard and that’s been said in every discussion on HN about writing and AI?

      1. WD-42 · 1790798451 · focus · HN ↗

         I read the linked article, thought the idea was generalizable, and posted that thought. Something wrong with that?

         1. ModernMech · 1790800518 · focus · HN ↗

            "Writing is thinking" is being repeated all the time lately to the point it seems like a meme.

            1. WD-42 · 1790801324 · focus · HN ↗

               Does that make it untrue?

               1. ModernMech · 1790801664 · focus · HN ↗

                  I would say probably most memeing is not really thought provoking or inducing. I agree most of the time writing can help collect one's thoughts but it can also be completely thoughtless. Probably what matters more is the specific process.

                  1. bgun · 1790818695 · focus · HN ↗

                     Your point seems to reduce to “bad writing=bad thinking, better writing=better thinking” which to me seems to support the original point, not refute it.

                     1. ModernMech · 1790851842 · focus · HN ↗

                        I’m not going to elevate memeing to thinking, no. If that’s the bar then using ai is just as much thinking as writing and the whole “writing is thinking” meme is pointless.

                        1. customguy · 1790860056 · focus · HN ↗

                           What is "memeing" in this context? From what I can see, it's just someone claiming something "seems" like a meme to them because it's repeated a lot. Is the idea that getting enough sleep is healthy also a "meme"? That Alzheimer and cancer suck and have no upsides? What's the actual criticism here, feeling left behind on an insight many other people already attained?

                           1. bunderbunder · 1790869966 · focus · HN ↗

                              I'm reminded of that Hitchens quip about interpreting ad hominem arguments as a tacit concession that you've made a good point. If they had a more substantive rebuttal then they would have led with that instead.

                              The memeing accusation wasn't technically an ad hominem, but it does at least live on that side of town.

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