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The AI Race Just Got Awkward

412 points · 463 comments · allisdust

  1. amichae2 · · focus · HN ↗
    I am not a fan of Anthropic but this article offers no concrete evidence that Anthropic actually ripped off Deepseek. It is all circumstantial.
    1. senordevnyc · · focus · HN ↗
      Thank you!

      I’m incredibly skeptical that OpenAI is spinning up custom ASICs for improved inference performance, but they never thought of optimizing KV cache until a tiny Chinese lab did it? Give me a break.

      1. bel8 · · focus · HN ↗
        They certainly thought. But were they able to do it now without DeepSeek papers?

        timeline suggests not.

        1. senordevnyc · · focus · HN ↗
          So DS comes up with 437x improvement, and the evidence that O/A copied them is that they dropped caching prices by like 50%? Really?
          1. croon · · focus · HN ↗
            80%. You can't do that unless you significantly cut costs somewhere. The timing is certainly indicative.
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