Why is it a problem that the Chinese labs are just distilling down Anthropic’s models? Aren’t Anthropic’s models not just distilling down other people’s work?
Feels like Anthropic crying do as I say not as I do.
The conversation here is mostly moral and ethical but the problem here seems to be financial.
Anthropic and OpenAi are spending a $$$$ to "distill" human output into an AI model, then others are spending $$ to distill their AI model into a near-equivalent model.
This is the same reason IP rights exist. On the surface, something like a patent feels ludicrious and even feels morally wrong. Some guy wrote down the recipe for arranging atoms or bits in a particular way, and now I can't!? However, it's designed to solve the same problem, figuring out and describing the process is much more costly than replicating it.
Anthropic and OpenAI are very happy to ignore the IP rights of others, so I'm not sure how they can ask for any kind of IP protection themselves. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Model weights wouldn't be covered in a patent. You could patent a method of creating weights in a model, but you couldn't patent the weights themselves.
I wish people here could at least bother to inform themselves about the IP rights they are so quick to insist are abhorrent, when they seem to not even have a first clue as to what they actually cover.
AI training, if viewed through the capitalist mindset, is plain theft. Anthropic can't morally defend copying someone else's IP, but denouncing others copying Anthropic's stolen IP.
That doesn't mean they won't try, and that also doesn't mean they won't succeed.
cmiles8 · · focus · HN ↗
Feels like Anthropic crying do as I say not as I do.
seizethecheese · · focus · HN ↗
Anthropic and OpenAi are spending a $$$$ to "distill" human output into an AI model, then others are spending $$ to distill their AI model into a near-equivalent model.
This is the same reason IP rights exist. On the surface, something like a patent feels ludicrious and even feels morally wrong. Some guy wrote down the recipe for arranging atoms or bits in a particular way, and now I can't!? However, it's designed to solve the same problem, figuring out and describing the process is much more costly than replicating it.
failbuffer · · focus · HN ↗
AlexandrB · · focus · HN ↗
freejazz · · focus · HN ↗
I wish people here could at least bother to inform themselves about the IP rights they are so quick to insist are abhorrent, when they seem to not even have a first clue as to what they actually cover.
ASalazarMX · · focus · HN ↗
That doesn't mean they won't try, and that also doesn't mean they won't succeed.