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The AI Race Just Got Awkward

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  1. slowin · · focus · HN ↗
    I'm also grateful to the Chinese labs for providing workarounds for the walled gardens that the US based AI companies are attempting to create.

    Does anyone know if there are any distillation datasets available? I'd love to see these distributed on BitTorrent. I think it's critical that AI be democratized and not isolated in the hands of a few private companies.

    1. skybrian · · focus · HN ↗
      There’s a libertarian sentiment that that doesn’t sit well with “AI is harming people” sentiment. If AI has harmful uses, and I think anyone sensible would have to agree that it does, then giving everyone unrestricted AI is likely to make it worse.

      It’s sort of like gun nuts arguing that more guns is the answer. I mean, ok, maybe you’re a responsible gun owner or AI user but relying on personal responsibility doesn’t fix systemic problems. There are bad people out there.

      1. bronson · · focus · HN ↗
        If food has harmful uses, and I think any one sensible would have to agree that it does, then giving everyone unrestricted food is likely to make it worse.

        You can do this with cars, tools, computers, ... whatever you want. So, no, I think your point is wrong.

        1. skybrian · · focus · HN ↗
          We do in fact have car and food safety laws. Regulation is normal.
          1. hyperlinerapp · · focus · HN ↗
            Guns are highly regulated. Try getting a gun in liberal California, where Reagan screwed us.

            Now, what I want to regulate are accordions.

            1. skybrian · · focus · HN ↗
              I am a responsible accordion owner and I think we’re doing ok :)

              Haven’t tried getting a gun in California. How bad is it? How could it be improved?

              1. rootusrootus · · focus · HN ↗
                > Haven’t tried getting a gun in California. How bad is it? How could it be improved?

                You have to pass a basic knowledge test, have a clean background, prove residency in the state, be 21 (or 18 for hunting rifles, IIRC) and then wait 10 days.

                1. plorkyeran · · focus · HN ↗
                  Which is to say that it’s a very burdensome process if you think you should be able to go to Walmart, exchange cash for goods, and walk out with a gun, but pretty simple by the standards of regulated goods. The basic knowledge test is very basic, so the pain points are just that sometimes background checks are incorrect, the waiting period can be inconvenient, and just the general annoyances of government bureaucracy.
                  1. hyperlinerapp · · focus · HN ↗
                    A gun is not a good. It’s a right.

                    It’s not like we ask to wait for 2 weeks when you have something to say or when you want to pray to your god.

                    1. stickfigure · · focus · HN ↗
                      > It’s a right.

                      Not if you're a felon or have mental health issues.

                      1. hyperlinerapp · · focus · HN ↗
                        It’s interesting that the SCOTUS still hasn’t decided why non violent felons who have served their sentence get their 2A rights cancelled.
                    2. rootusrootus · · focus · HN ↗
                      Free speech is a right, too, but we regulate that.
                      1. hyperlinerapp · · focus · HN ↗
                        Yes, we define crimes based on what you say. For example, libel or yelling “fire” at a movie theater.

                        But you are allowed to say whatever you want. If what you say is reflected as an offense, then you get some consequence (I am not speaking of UK where you can post something about immigrants in Facebook and get arrested; I’m speaking only of USA).

                        There are gun regulations too. Most are reasonable, but many are not. Liberals think that they can simply restrict the right to guns unconstitutionally because “guns are scary.” That is clearly not a sufficient basis to deny a right.

                        In the case of LA County, they just settled with the Feds because they had approved 2 concealed carry permits out of thousands of applications. That clearly shows the government was simply curtailing your right.

              2. hyperlinerapp · · focus · HN ↗
                It depends on the county. Some Sheriffs think it’s them who gives you your RIGHT to own a gun or a concealed weapon license. They don’t understand they are servants.

                LA just settled the Fed lawsuit over their terrible practices:

                <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;california&#x2F;story&#x2F;2026-08-13&#x2F;doj-la-sheriffs-department-settle-lawsuit-concealed-carry-firearm-permit-application-delays" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;california&#x2F;story&#x2F;2026-08-13&#x2F;doj-la-s...

            2. bittercynic · · focus · HN ↗
              I have purchased a gun in California, and I thought the process was pretty reasonable. Maybe even too lax.
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